How Happy are you? P1S X1C

The X1C’s spaghetti detection works through the build chamber camera. The LIDAR is only used as a second source for bed levelling and Filament calibration (but really useful for that, especially when wanting to calibrate a bunch of filaments).

Yep. To an astonishing degree. I would not have dared to do anything longer than 4h on my prior Tevo. On the X1C, the longest single print I dared was 4,5 days multi-color PETG.
But beware when things do not work. Many things can be resolved in the forum. But if you encounter an electronics or serious hardware issue and need to rely on the ticketing, you could be looking at weeks or even months before things get resolved. Nevertheless, Bambu is clearly trying to further improve on all fronts and made a lot of headway this year.

That should all work. But not all of them through the AMS. And there’s also no immediate way to mix AMS loaded filaments with Rear Spool holder filaments.

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X1C display isn’t a deal breaker if you consider Panda Touch.

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@EnoTheThracian

So Lidar make Sense 3rd Party filament to save time?
How accurate is it?

Can we Trust the Lidar or do i still have to Do a Double Check (which would make IT useless?)

AMS only should be fine.
For ASA and PA or PA and PETG.

TPU will be very rare HIPS also.

Thank you for the input

Well, in my particular case, it is more accurate than my eyesight or even tripple magnification of the test pattern using a smartphone. Or at least, when I try to do the manual calibration (which plenty of P1 users do have good experiences with), I do tend to get worse results than with the auto-calibration. Not much of an issue with PLA, but with PETG’s particular issues when printing fast (below 100mm/s for PETG, haven’t tried the High Flow variant yet), that does make quite a difference.

Me double checking by eyeballing (even magnified) would actually worsen my results.

But that experience also made it really painfull when the LIDAR broke. Took a total of 5 months to resolve, but Bambu replaced the full combo under warranty once they had managed to clear their backlog enough :+1:

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May and with errors

Ender 3 vs. X1C = Nokia 3210 vs. Iphone 5
X1C vs. 5Mpro = Iphone 16 vs. Cat S62 Pro

But like I said, I don’t think you want a 5Mpro, not where you are now.

And when you talk about CF and Nylon - that stuff isn’t cheap. So if you’re talking about that stuff, the X1C shouldn’t hurt you - if it does, you might be better off taking all 3 things on the list :wink: Contrary to an Ender 3, an X1C consumes 1 kg of fillament per day and not just a few grams.

God night, Wifeboss is calling :slight_smile:

Why would you consider an Ender 3? Like at all?

You could hire a child to poke you with a stick most of the day. Same thing.

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Pretty accurate really!! :grin:

@EnoTheThracian Sounds good. But… IT broke???

Mine is allready sleeping :slight_smile: gn8 :slight_smile:

Well, to compare. The Ender 5 i got was similar and i get sick of. So to realize where the Technology is with M5 oder X1, i thought IT was a good Idea to compare It with Things i know :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

But IT Looks Like this idea is Like

Here is a Stone you can throw it. What does youre Smartphone can do?
Ahh you can also throw it okay…

Can Somebody give Tips to Filament?
What Brands Work good Out of the Box?
You have experience with ASA PA Booth AS GF and CF & co.?
Does the BL Filament really Work Out of the Box Like everyone Said?
I mean the hard stuff Not pla :slight_smile:

How “hard” is It really practically to use 3rd stuff in Same quality?

That was either a very unfortunate malfunction of the TH board (last in a very long chain of trial-and-error replacements), or an even more unfortunate chain of events involving the X1C development and production history (keyword: multiple types of LIDAR), the X1+ development (or more precisely: Bambu’s response to that) leading to upgrades needing to be performed by actually replacing hardware.
In retrospect, the second actually seems more likely to me but since Bambu replaced the entire combo, all good now :smiley: . Just took so long because in parallel Bambu had the A1 cable issue. Must have been one hell of a time for them…

On my P1S I’ve used mostly Bambu filament, PLA, PETG HF and Basic (but it’s going away), PLA silk, PETG translucent and a little ABS.

I’ve also used Anycubic PETG and sunlu PLA silk silver. For both of those I found using the Bambu filament settings provided good results.

On the M5 Pro I’ve used all the same except for the translucent (I’ve had the M5 for not quite a week, I’m a newbie to 3D printing). I bought the M5 because I wanted to learn a little more about other things other than the super simple print and forget I found with Bambu and their software/hardware. The M5 has been equally print and forget. I typically have simply used generic settings for a given filament with this printer.

The M5 is cheaper, it feels and looks a bit cheaper too(bought mine off eBay, 399, 20% off coupon). Plastic door and lid as opposed to glass. It has a pretty good touch screen and has USB, Ethernet and WiFi (Bambu has a micro SD card slot and WiFi).

Also have the Bambu A1 mini combo(combo was same price as the M5 Pro). They’ve all been excellent so far. Bambu was recommended by two acquaintances that I knew that printed, both having several other brands as well.

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We’ll see how tolerances are. I’m printing one part of a file on the M5 Pro, the other part on the P1S. Hopefully they’ll still snap together :rofl:


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@CRracer712

Thank you that was accurate.
How would you descripe the Work and time to use a New, or another Filament If you would compare p1s and M5Pro?

By the way i Just checked the X1C for Shopping ä.

1600€ fornthe X1C Combo against 850 for the p1s Combo Thats almost the Double!? For what??

A Lidar some Aluminium a Touchscreen and 10 degrees more?? Didni Miss Something important? That scares me actually :woozy_face:

They Look Booth good :slight_smile:

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Ah grasshopper, that is why the P1S is a great value.

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For my limited experience, they both easily adapt to alternate filaments. I haven’t used a lot of the filament you are interested in.

The M5 Pro and I believe the X1C have built in filtration. The M5 Pro is sealed up around the door a more so than the P1S(I don’t know how the X1C is, haven’t seen one but would assume it’s a sealed door?)

I chose the P1S Combo for my first printer due to Bambu being a recommendation, and I wanted an enclosed unit, and I was afraid to spend the X1C money on something I had no idea if I’d like(3D printing).

The X1C and P1S share the same hotend and bed plates. The X1C’s higher temps may be required for certain filaments?

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I have used alot of coex3d filament it works great. And its made in Wisconsin. they bought the rights from dupont. The also have the jsons for there filament. Check them out. They have a bunch of engineering type filament also.
I have a p1s love it.

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The tentacles (Bambu basic PLA)printed on the M5 Pro snapped right into the base (Bambu PETG translucent) printed on the P1S. Benchy was printed on M5 Pro(benchy from Bambu file) using the sample burnt titanium PLA included with M5 Pro

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@CRracer712 Looks nice! So in Quality Theres No difference?

1600 vs 850 is ab big Thing for x1C vs P1S is it worth?

I dont use any of the added bells n whistles on my x1c but it still prints slightly better than my P1s. Even when the p1s was new and the x1c had 3,000 hours on it.

Quality looks good on both. On the Bambu you can get nozzles in stainless and hardened steel. The M5 has brass or copper and larger nozzles are steel(couldn’t find info on flashforge website).

M5 has quick change nozzle, but it’s not like it’s difficult to change Bambu nozzles (2 screws). Price of M5 nozzles are similar to complete Bambu hotends