Is it a smart idea to buy an X2D?

Hi everyone,

I am currently considering buying the Bambu Lab X2D, mainly because of the dual nozzle setup and active chamber heating. However, reading through the forum and Reddit, I see quite a few posts about firmware bugs (like issues with the auxiliary nozzle/extruder retracting) and some early-batch quality complaints.

Since it’s a significant investment, I wanted to ask the community: Is it smart to buy the X2D right now? Have most of these bugs been fixed with recent firmware updates, or would I be better off choosing another model, like the P2S or even looking at the H-series?

I would love to hear from current X2D owners about their recent experiences. Thanks for the advice!

At least wait until Black Friday - end of November - for the prices to drop, and then make your decision.

I might be one of the many silent users that fortunately didn’t have to go through the spiral of pain. I have nearly 500 hours on my X2D printing PLA, PETG, ABS, ASA and just recently TPU for the first time. Most, if not all issues I had were more related to the user than the machine.

I use the Aux extruder primarily for support filament which works without any headaches. I though already printed 40 copies of below model for a private event where I used the Aux extruder for the red heart (PLA) and the main extruder for the rest (PLA Wood) to save filament and time. The result has been better than expected through the entire batch.

It certainly seems to be a more complex machine than other models before. Current weaknesses seem to be slight underextrusion and challenges with ironing. In other threads those seem to be confirmed firmware, not hardware issues so there might be a helpful update in future.

Overall I’m quite happy with it.

As OWNER of one X2D I would say NO, this is not the right time. You need to buy one ONLY if you really need second nozzle right now. And also you make sure that the filament that you like to use in the second nozzle is supported. And also make sure this is not the only one printer you will be left with.

Basically nothing was fixed so far in FW and nothing was really officially confirmed to be a bug or defect. Officially all is good and cool, and no worries. :smiley:

Yes. Seems like a good plan to me.

I see all the arguments against it, and while I personally think that the auxiliary nozzle was the most… questionable mechanical choice Bambu has done recently (edit: wait no its probably the H2D’s bed heating element), the heated chamber may be the most consistent heated chamber of all consumer-grade 3D printers due to having two aux fans. You don’t typically get two aux fans on unmodified 3D printers, let alone one with a heated chamber.

If you ignore the dual nozzle, all is fine. Early stages of firmware and software always equates to bugs that are unresolved for a bit, but they iron out (eventually). Its a Bambu. Mostly the thing that matters to people who buy Bambu stuff is that prints look good, and from the decade old ABS lying around in my garage being able to print one of those tall purge waste chutes on it, the print showed no inconsistencies in layer adhesion, so the heated chamber is good :+1: (the print itself had some artifacts hanging off it, but hey, its filament over 10 years old left out in the open of a garage on a high shelf, barely dried, you’d be surprised that this stuff would even print anything)

If you want a real dual extruder with a heated chamber get the H2D, if you don’t want to spend the money or space for that, WAIT!!! (always wait for the next product when in doubt! There are some REALLY crazy things that might come up to the market from Bambu soon)

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Unfortunately, the H2 class is beyond my budget. I was initially planning to buy the P2S, but then I saw the X2D, which features a heated base plate and an active chamber heating system that reaches 65 degrees—allowing me to print with a wider range of filaments, such as nylon—which is why I decided against the P2S.

It looks really good—exactly the quality I need. Unfortunately, I also read a lot of reports about various issues occurring during printing, particularly involving the second nozzle.

Zero issues with mine after about 800 hours of printing. I use the aux nozzle for support and multifilament prints all the time. But there seem to be some problematic X2Ds out there, and its hard tell if its just a few or a bunch.

People have said that repairing the head is more challenging than other Bambu machines.

There are pros and cons to the X2D compared to other Bambu and non-Bambu machines. If you like the X2D features over other printers, I suggest buying from a place where you know you can readily return it, and then after it arrives, immediately put it through its paces. Good ones work really well. Mine consistently prints great from the main and aux nozzle. No under/over extrusion. No blobbing. Clean lines. Any failed prints have been 100% my fault for not keeping the build plate clean.

Thanks for the info. I was planning to buy it from a store anyway—it costs 200 euros more there, but you get a 2-year warranty and free repairs provided by the shop. It seems the X2D works really well for some people, while for others, it doesn’t work at all. Thanks again for the information.

It looks to me that problematic X2Ds are really problematic. If it has issues out-of-the-box, I’d request a replacement. Don’t let them try to repair a brand-new printer. Doesn’t make sense.

And I would really put the number of people having issues in relation to the number of X2D they probably have sold already.
E.g. JamboBambu is posting about the problems he has in every thread that is related to the X2D :zany_face:

Some more positive experiences:

I too haven’t had any problems so far. Had one self-inflicted clog, which really was no fun to resolve. So really try to avoid that. Apart from that it has surprised me positively many times so far.

One more X2D at work is humming along, and they did interesting stuff, like printing tiny PC parts with a 0,2mm nozzle and supports with the aux nozzle, of course also 0,2mm. We needed like 400 of those tiny parts within 48h. The X2D really saved us there.

One of my colleagues also has an X2D privately. He had some problems at the beginning with too high resistance but could solve them

At least I am not posting off-topics, and I am not insulting other people with problems with suggestion they are bots :wink: .

Also I am posting about many design flaws, as you alone experienced how easy and simple is to fix a clog and left overs from it. At the time I bought mine there was no one like me, everyone was like yeye gogo just 100 bucks more and you get heated chamber and new belts :smiley: . And I had no previous experience so needed several months to properly set my expectations. Kind of I am good representation for Bambu target group - I expect the printer to just print. And few months later I am changing many parameters before I click print + still deal with the calibration.

BTW what is this X2C - are you getting early access to devices not on the market :smiley: ?

:zany_face: sorry for the typo! I will correct it :wink:

Very true, and since our last conversation about that topic, I always include the printhead disassembly as a negative when I recommend the X2D.

Another related question: Is it easier on the P2S to solve a clog? Honest question because I have no idea.

I think, that is exactly the target group of the X2D. When you want to print more demanding filaments, then the X2D is an exceptionally attractive option in my opinion.
For multi color printing, I think there are better fitting options on the market by now.

We just got ours..like less than 2 months ago. We have a P2S as well. There is such a huge difference in printing temperature wise for what I want to do, vs what the husband wants to do. But the one problem I continually have is space. The bed size limits me for what I want to print. Think about this for a while..truly not just the multi color printing. How MUCH are you going to print? Is it all going to be dual color? are you going to want mechanical parts vs fidgit items or decoration? Do you think you’ll be needing parts/prints that are water proof? Before you spend a dime..start with the X2 and read up for all of the other added things.

Having said all that, I would have never bothered with the P2S, and gone straight for the H. Black friday is coming up and we don’t need 3 printers..but one never knows :wink:

hello

ive had my x2d for about 4 months and used it 24/7 and nothings gone wrong. i do recommend printing covers for the bearings and air way relocator so its facing up not at the bed because i noticed the print can warp. the cameras are very good compared to other Bambu printers and the ai helps alot to make sure your prints not cooked and waste filament on spaghetti. one thing i think they could improve is relocate the usb port as it just makes it look bad with a big usb sticking out the top

I have had my X2D for a long time, and I have been using it as my main printer the whole time. I love the dual nozzles because it reduces so much filament waste and time. If you are planning on printing frequently, the filament savings will eventually add up, especially for big multi-color prints. My X2D is very reliable and rarely has failures. If you get an X2D, just remember to clean the bed often.