and even before that “Apple” upcharge lol
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At this point I’ll buy anything that has a laundry attachment. I’m really hoping the last announcement will be a washer/drier combo that puts my clothes away.
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I am not falling for that trick again, how do you think I lost my left eye?
Just buy new stuff when the old stuff is dirty.
The same goes for crockery and cutlery.
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Yeah, you can just burn it up with the laser
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So the only thing we haven’t seen yet is the “cutting” module, which most surmise is a dragknife (ala cricut/yamaha vinyl cutters) honestly - I’m one of the weirdos who’s probably going to buy the combo combo (with gift cards of course lol) because I have experience and can use both the laser and drag cutter. That I don’t own both in my home now is because they’ve been present at most job sites - but since I was laid off last October I miss having them. Looking forward to vinyl lettering again and some of those cool laser on 3D print effects.
(I believe it was confirmed the yellow thing in the leak photo was a tape measure lol)
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As someone who has used both laser and cutter, what’s your opinion on operating them inside a 3D printer?
Will there be smoke, dusts, microparticles that can get into the gears and cause problems for 3D printing?
Does the small confine of a 3D printer hinder the use of laser and cutter?
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Sure looks it. So the laser module just slaps on top of the hotend?
Reminds me of a Blue Oyster Cult concert I went to in the 70’s. they had 2 blue green laser going and even bounced one off a mirrored ball. Ah, the good old days before people started worrying about safety.
probably 5 milliwatts like laser pointers. Thats.0005 watts and was still dangerous for your vision.
from link below:
There were two: one Argon and one Krypton lasers.
The company was Laser Physics
These were Class IV high wattage, water-cooled lasers.
They were finicky, tough to keep on the road and susceptible of damage.
Eric had a fiber tube that would project the laser beam from his arm when pointed up into the audience. Plus the one that would be on the guitars and the beam shot at the mirror ball.
Then the “fun” ended with OSHA shutting it down after many times they tried to follow newer strict rules.
edit:
Loved that show, what I can remember of it. No security checks and the police had a bus parked outside at the end of the show.
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I had the same thing in my head, glad I’m not the only one.
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Smoke, very much so. Dusts microparticles, you betcha. Plan a frequent cleaning regiment. I’d love to see their wiki cleaning process write up on this one. Hate to be the guy who has to lay that one out.
Wish i would be able to use LightBurn with the laser, but given this going to be locked down from third party fun, i’ll just see myself out 
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I guess soon we will kmow more about the laser and cutter, including how the smoke and dusts will be dealt with. Just wanted to hear from those who have a good amount of experience using these tools before, that’s all.
Most likely I won’t be getting the laser edition because I don’t need the laser and cutter at the moment. If the smoke and dusts and the limited space inside a 3D printer are not a big problem or concern, the laser combo can be a good deal for those who want to use these tools. The convenience of not having to wear safety goggles and potentially commonly used materials will be readily available in Makers Supply store can make a good user experience.
For those who are unclear, those are nozels on the back of the laser footage. Basically the laser is on the back part making the tool head bigger and giving the laver lest print volume as a result seen in other leaks.
I have two laser etcher\cutters and both require fume exhaust. And even with that I have to clean the lenses at least every other day. Not to mention the enclosers get film build up on them and need to be cleaned every so often (usually when i can’t see inside very well.)
I don’t understand why you would spend that kind of money for a high precision, high speed printer just to do laser etching\cutting when for around $500 you can get a decent laser etcher\cutter that is dedicated and not tie up your expensive printer.
For me, I would buy the printer to print and buy a laser etcher\cutter for just that. And I don’t have the added maintenance that would go along with it.
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The laser cutting itself could cut the build plate.
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It depends a lot on the materials being used, and how well (on other machines) the user has that material tuned. e.g. engraving on wood or paper, vs acrylic - vastly different outcomes depending on expertise, e.g. flames smoke and soot vs fumes and particulates. The short answer is yes to all, it will be interesting to see what BBL does with the exhaust (e.g. if a suction air-movement ventilation system is sold separately or recommended or just passive exhaust out a window) along with the air-assist, and if there’s any change to the design to somewhat protect elements. Also interesting that this printer switches to linear rails vs carbon rods like the X1C which was susceptible to soot accumulation (the rails are too of course, just harder to see when it did imo).
TL;DR: with traditional equipment a newb will make a mess, and an expert would make… less… of a mess, but still a mess. lol Bambu Lab will have to advise on how best to upkeep the printer from extensive use of the laser impeding use of the 3D printer. We’ll see!!!
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I feel like maybe the laser could be good for like marking metals , but then you’d want a q -switched infrared laser and not this cheap blue diode junk they appear to be pushing .
I wonder if those “cold mark” lasers generate nearly so much smoke/particulates vs these blue lasers that are made mostly for dumping lots of average thermal energy (vs q-switched at high peak power , but lower average power ).
I could see a good argument for why the IR q-switched fiber lasers could be useful and not create a huge mess , but then people would probably complain they don’t cut things , not realizing smoke and fire in their printer is horrible idea …
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you’d never use the same material for laser cutting/engraving as you would for 3D printing, I honestly don’t believe the speculation that there would be some kind of hybrid use at all. Height=Focus, which is why the bed shown has Aruco markings so the cameras and lidar can focus the laser, you’d just place the printed piece onto the cutting surface. I could be wrong of course, but yeah that’d be an easy to ruin piece of equipment that for layering no one would care about as much as we do for a 3D printing build plate. For convenience alone, you’d not want to use the same plate, not to mention cost and accuracy.