Makerworld dumb policies are seriously pushing me out

Today they took down a profile print of a model from a year ago for the lack of a real photo of the printed model. And sure, my mistake… even if the page was FILLED with photos and gifs of the printed profile, they weren’t uploaded as attachments. It was the first model I uploaded on the platform after all.

It’s not about the 8-10 point they got back… the model was a very useful but uncommon thing. Still, something you could only find on makerworld.
And now it’s gone forever, since it’s unprintable, and I’m not going back to fusion to create a new one. f**k them honestly.

They choose to go after a model that survived like 10 reviews for a card redemption, while their platform is now a dumpster fullfilled by ai generated content and meme models to farm point. There are people doing nothing but s**t like this:
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What’s the point of taking a long time to create a GOOD complex model, in general?
You get a “featured” icon, and then what?
Same visibilty as before.
The model will still get a diminishing return on downloads, and after 1k you get almost nothing. If you want to incentivate those kind of models, you reward when they get a lot of downloads. You don’t penalize it…
In theory people should be incentivated to boost complex models but that’s really just theory. Many i know, still boost memes and exchange them with no consequences.

So yeah, I don’t hate the guy doing meme drill bits to farm points. It’s pathetic, but maybe it’s just a kid trying to buy a printer. It’s Makerworld fault in the end. :man_shrugging:

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It’s not. Makerworld added the function to download taken down profiles afterwards.

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Good call. I’ll post it on Printables. :slightly_smiling_face:

It’s almost comical how there is a steady cycle of posts that “Makerworld is garbage because I can’t follow the simple rule of posting a picture of a print.” Is it really that hard?

What is even funnier is that the OP made a post in April railing against Makerworld for not enforcing the Photo thing… Just…wow.

https://forum.bambulab.com/t/makerworld-lack-of-quality-control-is-killing-the-platform/162794

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:man_shrugging: Maybe to create something awesome? To challenge yourself? To challenge what we think 3d printing can do? To push the limits of your own design chops? To better yourself?

Who cares? I don’t get into those meme models, but if people are having fun, laughing, encouraging each other. What’s the crime? What is so pathetic? Are they pathetic because they’re having fun with their hobby?

Your troubles aren’t their fault and it is a disservice to the community to disparage people like that just because you’ve hit a road bump.

I’ve had models not perform well. I’ve had print profiles taken down and loose points (because of missing photo). Not every day is as peachy keen as we dream, but not every fault is the fault of someone else.

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And sure, my mistake… even if the page was FILLED with photos and gifs of the printed profile, they weren’t uploaded as attachments. It was the first model I uploaded on the platform after all.

You are twisting the facts very poorly. The model had tons photos and gifs, just not included as “attachments” but linked in the description…
And the point of the previous discussion wasn’t models missing a photo, but models that has never been printed at all… :roll_eyes:

Well on the one side, i feel you - i am in favor of having printed images first and have always provided them with my models, but i also do not get the profile rule. It´s just - stupid, we all know where this comes from. But we still face the same issues, with low contributed profiles from non-authors and have to provide images for variants. I do not want to repeat myself, but you can read my opinion on this topic here: https://forum.bambulab.com/t/print-profile-guidelines-on-makerworld/100762

On the other hand, I really enjoy these fun models. I would never print them, but sometimes they give me a good laugh. It does not matter if it´s simple or complex. They made my day - i think that’s also worth something. As always i can only agree with @Josh-3D - i really do not see a problem.

I am not sure what your motivation here is, but for me - I just like design stuff to solve my problems/needs. And i do not care about how long it took to create. I am really enjoying the feedback. Because i want to see what people are doing with my designs - do they work. Do they have problems. It´s fun to see if my problem can help, benefit others. The most devastating for me is to see a model performing “good”, and i see no makes😔. Like I see people printed it, but no one added a picture.

So that’s my motivation, what is yours?

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That’s still on you to make sure the print profiles have their required photos. I mean, seriously. I had to hide a print profile at risk of having it taken down and loosing points, because I wasn’t in a position to update it with a photo. This was something I put up before the current rules were in place.

I’ve lost points before too on a profile getting taken down for not having a photo. opps, that was MY bad.

That doesn’t mean I just brushed it off. It was/is annoying, but this is also a two way street that requires effort on my part. I can’t just assume to have it all, but to do it however I want on my side. Bambu is working to curate a certain type of experience on this website, and by engaging in it like I do, I’m working to help create that. It benefits all of us.

And it does not matter if user X Y or Z hasn’t done the same. They just haven’t got dinged yet, haven’t got caught yet, haven’t got reported yet.

It’s like if you had a boat, and you’re complaining because you have to make it water tight "But Captain Edward Smith didn’t put as much effort into it!, yeah well Captain Edward’s ship is at the bottom of the sea now, isn’t it?

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The problem is a database full of junk, where you struggle to find what you are looking for because people are incentivized to put a lot of low quality stuff in it.
Quantity is rewarded more than quality as I said. And that’s a fact.

I really don’t believe the motivation to make those meme models is having a laugh. It’s just farming.

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I don’t think this is true. Meme models might go viral, but they only have so much of a life span before things piddle out. A lot of times too, the people that do those models, that’s like their one claim to fame. Their moment in the sun.

In general, in life, this happens all the time and isn’t just Makerworld. There’s always someone getting some lucky chance that’s throwing them some relief in life that they didn’t entirely earn. But that’s life. When we stack ourselves against those moments, we’re just gonna make ourselves miserable.

Beyond that, it’s people that make the models popular, that give the boost, that download and print. You may not like some of those models, or think they’re pointless, but people are engaging them because they’re fun for them. It’s users driving this, not Makerworld, not Bambu.

Specifically this idea that more complex models lag behind quantity. I’ve done a number of models that lean on hardware. They aren’t the easiest or most accessible models. They tend to be big, require a lot of filament, and the investment in hardware. I see numbers that compare or exceed those meme models though, easily. I’ve seen users that might have 400 uploaded models, but just one of my single complex models out-does it.

I think sometimes it’s easy to fall into the perception that the cheap easy stuff is winning the game, but I think that’s only surface level. When you really start looking closer, I don’t think the story is as black and white.

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Another fact of life as much as makerworld is you were probably reported, (correctly) unlike others who still appear to get away with it.

This tends to be an unfortunate side effect of when the spotlight shines on you. :mag: I see you recently had a model featured (congrats :+1: ) Which had more eyes on the rest of your account. More eyes means more scrutiny.

Its stupid to provide evidence that your model can actually be printed so that people don’t download it and end up wasting a bunch of filament?

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Please read the thread, evidence is present on the model, not on the profile. See examples.

My points balance is currently -67 because of a profile I posted on someone else’s model back when Makerworld first came out and before the requirement to attach a print photo to a profile was introduced. So I just recently got a notice it had been taken down and I was penalized more points than that profile had ever earned, but the link to the model didn’t show my profile so I didn’t know where to find it so I could reprint it and add a photo so I appealed and asked them to restore it so I could reprint and add a photo right away and that was denied. I have since found where to look for profiles I uploaded that are not on my models but I can’t appeal again.

I don’t think this is fair or appropriate to get penalized because every print profile I have ever posted satisfied the rules that were in place at the time I uploaded it, if the rules change and they want to take the profile down that’s fair, but I don’t think that should earn a penalty. I also think that when someone is clearly trying to fix the situation you should cut them some slack and help them instead of being a hard liner about it.

But the rules changed, including older already existing profiles. You were informed about the change and were given a ~10 day grace period to bring the profiles in line with the new rules.

Then put the evidence on the print profile where the guidelines TELL you to put it

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When I got the notification it linked to the model and my profile was not listed there and I didn’t know where to find it to fix it. I used the appeal to ask for guidance what to do and it was simply denied without offering any guidance.

And I also think it’s kind of a lot to expect that when the rules change that all previous uploads need to be updated or get not only taken down but penalized as if they hadn’t followed the rules in the first place. Take them down is sort of fair. Keep in mind that not everyone is even checking the website that often.

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This is how life works. You can’t grandfather everything in.

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As you did not read the thread, please consider updating your profiles so they exactly match the result and the printer. Reusing the images from a different profile is invalid. How do i know you may ask. The objects on the images have the same defects on the same places - even the stringing. You just rest my case - thank you.

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