IMHO, the swapmod is perfectly priced.
And it’s a bit unfair to compare it to the price of the A1 mini. It’s dirt cheap, they have massive economy of scale, and honestly I don’t think they are even making money on it. They just want to flood the market with them and increase their customers base.
Looks it that way. The A1 mini + the swapmod + 2 plates equal the price of the A1.
For me, it totally worths it
it’s actually 300g of PLA filament But you are right, 77$ + tax might be slightly to high priced. Once I start selling in my own online-shop I plan to setup the price per country so folks outside the EU get lower prices in order to partly compensate the customs and import taxes. This will not drop the price dramatically but maybe making it more fair for all.
I am in and I like it. But I hope this project will see the light at the planned dates. I already supported projects on kickstarter that wrere pure scaming projects despite all warranties of the creator. Cross fingers.
I have a question. Is it possible to make a 3mf of the swap process alone and upload it to makerworld as a print profile so i can remotely switch if i want to print an other plate or profile without your software tool?
(I apologize if someone has asked this before and I haven’t seen it)
The answer is yes and no
YES, there is such file. I call it “swap-now. 3mf”. It can be opened and sent to a printer from slicer, and once started it can be executed again using printing history in handy app. However since it’s a custom gcode and not a regular model it CANNOT be uploaded to makerworld.
I am in France if you need any help. I use to support startups in the launch, some of them are in the top in France and USA. 3D printing is a passion linked to late my son (found of robots and 3D prints).
Very creative idea but completely pointless for 3 main reasons -
1.This mod isn’t increasing print speed output, and only useful for very specific reasons
The footprint of the A1 mini becomes cumbersome therefore negating the draw card and main selling point of the A1 mini.
This mod and the price of an A1 mini is more than just buying the A1, which has the much larger build plate which would negate the need for the majority of projects to multi plate build, and will take up less of a footprint.
I would love to see your calculations for how this is going to be better for scaling up small businesses, as I see that statement as complete nonsense.
Having more printers is better than having this mod with 3, 6, 9 plates. The cost of the mod, the cost of additional plates combined with the cumbersome footprint required to have the plates land onto, is less cost effective and less efficient than having 3 x A1 minis, or 2 A1’s.
I see it overpriced for the limited benefit. The mod costs 38% of an A1 Mini. An A1 is only 30% more than an A1 mini and offers the bigger build plate, thus negating the need to buy this mode. The mod makes the A1 mini’s footprint pointless, as now requires more space than an A1. Plus the cost of additional build plates, it makes no sense to buy this.
But, the fact you do not get the benefits doesn’t mean others don’t. It doesn’t mean this isn’t an excellent tool and will improve the productivity in areas you have clearly misunderstood p.
Which is fine, but, we get it, you don’t want one. You have explained that several times.
Usecase: you have an 100x150 x 40 mm object. You need 1000 pcs. Printing time 3h each. A1 can print 3 in a time . A1m only one . You start A1 at 8am , it finishes at 5 pm. You need to restart it again. If you work a regular 8h day, you are not there anymore , but let’s pretend you don’t care and work about 10h a day . You restart the print and it will finish at… 2am. Will you wake up to restart?
A1m with swapmod and 8 plates is more expensive then A1 but in our use case you need to start it only once a day.
While running a serious and already profitable business folks I know usualy don’t look for cheaper printers. They are looking for reliable and easier workflows.
But in case when costs of 40-60€ really matter, you don’t even need sourcing 8 plates. 4-5 additional plates are enough, since one already comes with the printer and you still can reload the ejected plates back into the magazine while printer still working.
If you don’t see the benefits of it that’s fine.
But I’m super happy to be able to loop print jobs during 24h. A set a new loop the next day. That’s game changer for any small print shop because it’s affordable
Thank you for giving me permission to not buy it. My mistake, I didn’t realise that one isn’t allowed to comment on a forum. I shall in the future make sure I get your permission before posting anything.
I am keen to understand how this is a game changer, in terms of long term productivity and cost effectiveness. I am not taking the piss I am keen to see your evidence that buying the Kit and 8 plates is better that buying 2 x A1 mini combo’s as the price difference between having 2 x A1 mini combos and 1 x A1 mini combo with 8 build plates via the swap mod is only $58 cheaper.
Lets say we both have day jobs, 7.5 hours 7 days a week, I setup both A1’s to print before I go to work, you setup 8 plates before you go to work, we are both printing the same thing, lets say its 4 hours per plate and 10 objects per plate including time to swap the plates and reheat etc. My setup prints 20 in the time I am at work, and yours also 20. Obviously my setup has 4 hours of downtime yours is running non-stop for those 8 hours. I get home, startup another batch, in 4 hours I have another 20 for a total of 40 and you have 30 in the same time frame. I print another batch, and before bed, another one for a total of 4 batches x 2 in 24 hours with 8 hours of non-printing time for a total of 80 units printed. Your setup only prints 60 running non-stop for 24 hours and my setup only runs for 16 hours, due to the print stopping half way during work time and sleep time.
Then we can look at the cost to run my setup and yours, in terms of electricity. I run my setup for 16 hours per day x 2 @ 50w per hour and yours is 24 hours per day x 50w per hour. My electricity charge for one year is $157 and yours $118. I produce 29,120 units per year and your setup produces 21,840 per year. Not taking into account down time for maintenance and replacement of belts etc. I can at least still have an output while your setup is offline completely, unless both my units go kaput at the same time.
The items we are selling go for $5 a pop after materials and selling fees we make $3.50 per unit. Your setup brings in $76,440 per year mine $101,920. My setup is $58 more in initial capital, $39 dollars more in electricity and I need to buy double the belts and other maintenance whatnots for lets say $300 more than your setup. The dual setup is still pulling in $25k more.
Yes this is a unrealistic number of units being demanded by customers, but I am curious as to what the actual efficiency, output and income increase you get in comparison to a dual setup.