P2S: Degradation in top layer quality

Hi there,

for a couple of weeks I’ve been noticing a degradation in top layer quality in prints with my P2S. It looks like under extrusion. I think it is happening across all colors of PLA Basic. Probably with other materials too, but I don’t have enough prints to make a comparison there. There are currently 840 operating hours on the machine, I have had the machine since it came out in October of last year.

I tried doing a flow rate calibration with Bambu Studio which gives me something about 1.02. But I have the strong impression that printing with a flow rate of 1.02 gives me over extrusion in other parts of prints.

The Bambu wiki says a flow rate of more than 1 hints toward a clogged extruder or nozzle.I’ve already taken the extruder apart, looked pretty clean to me. Also tried a new 0.4 nozzle which didn’t change anything.

I also noticed that the most problematic areas stay the same when printing the same object twice.

I did clean and lubricate the axes a couple of times.

Other things I’ve tried:

  • tightening the belts
  • firmware downgrade to 01.01.00.00
  • replacing the PTFE tubes in the printer, from the buffer to the printer and from the AMS to the buffer. Looked like it improved things on one small test print but I’m not 100% sure.
  • drying the filament

I’m running out of ideas - I’m thinking about replacing the PTFE tubes in the AMS and replacing the extruder gears. But feeding filament from a new AMS HT I’ve got since last week doesn’t change anything, so I doubt it’s the tubes.

Attached are two pictures, the bottom one is of a print I did when the printer was pretty new, the other one from today. I’m doing another print now with a flow rate of 1.02.

It seems to be a common problem, Im experiencing exactly the same thing. Ive tried different PLA brands, calibrated the flow, used auto calibration, increasing the flow ratio on top layer (which make it a bit better but does not fix the issue totally) and plenty other things but no luck.

So I printed the model shown on the pictures I posted again with a flow rate of 1.02, and the worst areas still show under extrusion, while areas where the problems are less prominent improved.

I don’t know if som settings changed in Bambu Studio or the configuration packages, but I can’t seem to get the initial quality back.

Might have to take some proper pictures tomorrow, the phone camera doesn’t quite cut it, but it’s pretty obvious with the naked eye.

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I have the same problem and already started a thread about it. I’ve contacted Bambu, but unfortunately, I didn’t get any useful feedback. Surfaces with long lines just don’t look good. It’s as if the flow rate is too low. Bambu only tests with their cube, which has short lines. I’ve already tried everything: thinner lines, more overlap, higher flow rate. It all helps a little, but it’s not why I bought a Bambu printer. My gut feeling tells me it was better before firmware version 01.01.01.

Try rolling back to 01.01.00.00 using Bambu Handy and recalibrating the machine. I wonder if that helps?

I did a rollback and It didn’t seem to change anything. But I didn’t do a full factory reset after the downgrade, only a full recalibration.

I have done about 820 hours on my P2S, and i have the same problem. I have a message saying lubricate the gears in the AMS, I cant find any instruction show how to lubricate these gears? I dont know if these relate to the poor top layer quality?

I am now noticing this issue. Did anyone find a resolution? I thought it was my nozzle because I printed some TPU, but small cubes/test squares come out fine.

ever figure it out? my surface finish is far far worse than yours and support says its normal or just ignores my ticket

not the nozzle i have swapped mine and no better

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i have 100 hours of purely troubleshootin on my p2s, nothing but bad/failed prints and im down 3 kgs of filament of just trying to get an acceptable result

I have 300 hours on mine and the quality of my top layer is awfull…
Did anyone find any solution for this?

Have you been able to sort this, as its happening to my p2s now

I’m in the same boat here. 980 hours on the P2S and the quality on bottom and top layers is getting worse all the time.

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I’m having the same problem. Has anyone managed to solve it?

Seems like only thing which could have been is a nozzle degradation, have around 1000 hours, with Tungsten nozzle and still prints just like it did