Considering a purchase but have some questions; been in the 3D printing scene for a few years. Currently running a modded Ender 3v2 with Octoprint and only actually print with PLA and PETG. My main priorities are to get away from manual bed levelling, effortless first layers and remote management from Mac/windows and phones/tablets. Ideally to also integrate into Home Assistant. Love the idea of the X1 (undecided on AMS yet) but wondering if I can justify the extra over the P1P.
Is the screen on the P1P really as bad as everyone says? And how much would I actually need to use it day-to-day given Bambu Studio? Screen on the X1 looks great compared but seems a waste if I’m potentially barely going to touch it
I’ve seen reports of very slow job upload and extraction (?) on the P1P. Is this still a thing and if so why? how does it compare to the X1? I’m used to clicking print in my slicer and have that upload the gcode to Octoprint which kicks everything off within seconds. Is a similar workflow achievable?
Are the printable panels for the P1P any good? Seen reviews stating that some panels don’t have the tolerances to connect to each other very well
Does the X1/P1P have a filament runout sensor and is it any different to what’s in the AMS? Just looking for a decent way of being able to detect when I’ve come to the end of a spool so I can swap it out and keep printing without much waste.
Can’t speak to the P1P, but I now have ~1000 hours across two X1C machines, both with AMS units attached. Around the house, I also have a Prusa Mini, Raise3D E2, Ender 3.
With the X1Cs, it’s a nearly flawless experience, especially for materials like PLA, PETG, ABS. Right out of the box, I’ve never had to fuss with bed leveling, and with the textured PEI sheet, I don’t have any issues with adhesion (and no messy glue). This truly is a game changer from the years of “guess and check” z-offsets.
All models have a filament runout sensor, including P1P. It’s located near the print head. When filament runs out, the print head parks and waits for a new spool to load. With an AMS, this can happen automatically if you’ve configured multiple spools with the same material/settings.
I do find myself using the X1Cs screen quite often, even though I do all my slicing at my computer and send the files wirelessly. The screen is useful for quickly configuring the AMS, loading previous print jobs, understanding error code (like filament runout or spaghetti detection). Not sure it’s essential, but it’s very nice to have.
I use the Bambu mobile app A LOT. Makes it super convenient to check-in on a print and see if everything is nominal. You know the drill if you use Octoprint with a camera. Still, nice to have it all integrated out of the box.
I’ll defer to others to speak to P1P nuances. Hope that helps.
I have the X1C + AMS
What the AMS does for me is Fire&Forget. It’s a time saver.
I print a lot of reprints, but only in 4 basic ABS colors 90% of the time.
I shove in a fresh plate, select the model from the SD card, select the AMS slot, hit start, turn my back and go about my day. When done, rinse and repeat.
If you don’t print every day in several different colors, or don’t do multi-color parts, then don’t bother with the AMS.
Hi
I have had my P1P for about six weeks and overall am very happy with it. I could not justify the extra expense of the X1 but I have since bought the AMS which has been a good move.
Initially I had problems with the slow cloud downloads but the new firmware update has fixed that - as long as you don’t mind using the cloud the system works well. Using the LAN only mode also worked well for me.
I don’t mind the simple screen as i mostly use Studio to control the machine. The only problem I have is not having a visual representation of files stored on the SD card - a minor annoyance…
The quality of the prints I have done using PLA and ABS have been excellent with the only fails have been by my errors such as forgetting to use support, etc.
I did print the side panels which were not as accurate as expected but did fit with a bit of posit processing. I have since printed and installed the minimal frame which is available from Printables and have used acrylic for the infill.
Overall I am very happy with the P1P, especially now I also have the AMS
I have a P1P since january and I’m happy with it. It’s my 3rd printer and I have 2 other printers with Duet boards (1 delta, 1 bed slinger). These have bed probing with nozzle, too, so nothing new for me, but very convenient for good first layers without fiddling. Recently I got the AMS for storing filament and printing in another color without changing the external spool. But best thing IHMO is, I can use support filament with zero gap between support interface and model. I only print the interface layers with support filament to cut down filament changes.
Yesterday it could not retract the filament back into the AMS, and that was where the big display from the X1C would be better. The printer stood at standby to wait the clearing of the error, but you could not do it with the P1P display. I had to get my notebook to the printer and over the device page of the slicer I was able to get the printer to finnish the print.
I have my P1P in LAN only mode and manage the files with WinSCP (ftp). Transfer speed is 100-150kB/s, so for big files you need patience, or take the SDcard out and to your computer. Also, for big files I export as .gcode so the printer don’t need to extract the .3mf what can need sooooome time, too.
All in all I’m happy, and i think the AMS for its price point is a must have addition.
P.S.: I’m mostly using PETG as support for PLA and vice versa. It sticks to each other enough to print on each other, but separates later really easy. For me it works very good, but other reported problems with nozzle clog.
Thanks for all the feedback guys. Much appreciated. I think I’m leaning towards an X1C without AMS and see how I get on. Nice to know I can always get the AMS later.