According to the official guidelines, you are not suppose to create a single color print profile if you already have a multicolor one. The “duplicate” will be removed.
But, if I take my multicolor print profile (which takes 23 hours to print) and select the same color for all the color options in the print, it still says it takes 23 hours to print.
If I remove all the coloring from the same model and then print it, of course only has a single selection for my color choice. It then says it’ll take 4 hours to print.
Even if it really only takes 4 hours to print, that 23 hour time is going to scare away people from downloading it. I don’t think I have a choice other than creating separate print profiles for multicolor and single color.
It appears @MakerWorld lets others get away with a single object with 1-4 colours on 4/5 different profiles . whats the difference they are all duplicates
I’ve had Single Color print profiles removed as “duplicates” and was told that users should use the Multi-Color profiles and just set the filaments to all be the same color.
I disagree with this because the profiles I had were either Multi-Color using Print By Object or Multi-Color where the colors are split into different plates. With the split plates profile, it’s not optimal to print multiple plates when you could just combine them into one plate like my Single Color print profile did. With Multi-Color using Print By Object, many users commented that they didn’t understand using how a Multi-Color profile could be turned single color. So I feel that Single Color print profiles have a place (I found that when I did have Single Color profiles, they accounted for about 25% of downloads).
However, that said, we don’t make the rules and have to follow them so I removed my Single Color print profiles. I think it’s even more unfortunate in your situation because of the big difference in print times.
There’s a way around that: don’t do “single” and “multi-color” profile. Instead do a “ams” and “non-ams” profiles with clear description of differences in profiles so those aren’t removed. Both need to provide benefits different than color.
I think the key here is to understand the goal of the rule in the 1st place: if the model on the plate is printed the same way and the only difference is one having multi-color and the other single-color, then those are duplicates because all you need to do in order to get single-color version out of multi-color one is to remove colors.
Here’s an example how one may “get away” with single and multi-color profiles totally within the rules:
Multi-color profile: a model in “kit card” form with 4 colors, tons of color changes, single plate. Name: “Kit-Card, requires ams”
Single-color profile: model in parts, each color with it’s own “kit card” and on separate plate, each plate set with different color (so 4 plates). Name: “NON-AMS, color-by-plate”
That should work, especially if the profile photos show differences between the profiles and 3d preview is unmistakably different
Adding ams/non ams doesnt add anything to a prints profile other than colours and they are still duplicates of the same object and should be removed or listed as one profile
I agree with @Johnny_Bit here, using AMS is an important distinction when printing a profile which is why Handy shows a unique AMS icon so users know it’s required. For my more complex designs I generally have three main profiles I create:
Components - Multiple small plates printed with a higher quality preset; works with all printers and makes for easy “multi-color” without an AMS AMS - Single large plate split into multiple colors and printed with the by-object setting; AMS and large format printer required but makes “multi-color” even easier (single print job) Default - All components on a single small plate; single color and works with all printers
Model used in this example, you can see the distribution of downloads which implies all three profiles are popular for their own reason.
Ams isnt necessarily required for any multicolour print , there is a pause option that can be added by the layer in bambu studio
all the ams does is automate the process (edit )
All three of my print profiles can be printed through Handy with zero user interaction. Of course there’s multiple ways to do it but your suggestion is not easy or even possible for users that print exclusively through the mobile app. Automating the process is very important for ease of use, not sure why you want to eliminate that.
Something tells me you haven’t read past the 1st line of the 1st paragraph of my post. Here, lemme highlight something I said that’s similar to what you said:
So - I said there’s no point in adding single color profile when there’s no benefit to it.
So ? they are duplicates of a single colour object , using wording like ams / non ams makes no difference and shouldnt be a way to justify duplicates that only add colour
I dont , but it is what it is , nothing more than automation tool and the reason i and many others make use of them to print a profile, it doesnt add anything to a profile other than that
Ahhh, I didn’t realize that “Handy shows a unique AMS icon so users know it’s required”.
That is “handy”. I think I’ll change my listing to say AMS instead of Multicolor.
When you say “Custom” in your print profile is that a way you are saying there are other slicer settings I’ve changed that I’m not going to list in this title?
AMS makes by-layer coloring easier, but what actually matters is when the model has multiple colors on single layer making use without ams simply not feasible. You skipped the part where I describe actual way do do ams/non-ams profiles:
Also you’re (partially) wrong here:
For multicolor print where there are color changes on same layer you need either multiple extruders or material change system such as AMS or MMU. You cannot (yet) easily make pause mid-layer (Add custom G-code / M600 (color print) using the horizontal slider · Issue #5195 · prusa3d/PrusaSlicer · GitHub) (Sure, there are ways around that but it’s tedious) and therefore if there are color changes on the layer there’s a reason to make AMS and non-ams version where say the color part is split and has to be glued on instead of printed in place.
Makerworld itself shows when AMS is deemed necessary for the model:
When you do pauses for color changes or plate per color or similar it doesn’t:
