more updates on what will be in the printer … apperently :The Bambu Lab H2D will have a laser module and these laser-engravable or cuttable items will be available on their store. Note these are translated and may not be 100% accurate or make sense. I do not know what the laser type will be, but I would guess diode.
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My guess would also be diode, Fibers laser move using mirrors which I think would be very hard to set up as detachable as well as CO2 lasers requiring a tube. (from what I know about both of those) not to mention the lower costs diode lasers demand vs the other 2. I wonder if they will have upgradable lasers modules as well. 10w, 15w, 20w…etc
Yeah, if accurate, that’s definitely for a laser engraver, and the materials suggest a diode laser. That sucks… but I think it is optional, so you don’t have to be bothered if you don’t want to. I just hope the convert-ability didn’t compromise the mechanics.
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If they have a laser built into the H2D I hope that they have a seperate laser cutter as well because I doubt that people will be getting an H2D for the laser.
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Remember when everyone was excited and they revealed the A1 mini? I’m getting those vibes again, I’m getting them real strong…
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Maybe the laser is for post-print to improve layer adhesion. After each layer is printed (or maybe while) it sinters the plastic to get the layers to bond better.
I thought that too. That would be revulutunary as long as that laser does not burn the plastic, because that would make a mess. But people already denied that idea of smoothing layer lines with laser melting.
Edit: i am glad the leak about the h2d was true, because today i orderd a shelf from a carpentor with that meassuremants.
I don’t understand the following fact: it was communicated that this device is supposed to be aimed at prosumers and small businesses.
However, if the rumors in the image turn out to be true and a laser can be used as a modular attachment, the device would shift in the complete opposite direction and become more interesting for hobbyists and DIY enthusiasts instead.
The simple reason for this is that such a combination would likely involve certain trade-offs to ensure compatibility for both functions.
And the biggest drawback in my opinion: I wouldn’t be able to use the 3D printer while the laser is operating and vice versa. This makes it absolutely unsuitable for business use in my view. A business would almost certainly invest in two dedicated machines instead, allowing both tasks to be performed simultaneously.
A few more points that immediately come to mind:
I personally own an Xtool F1 Ultra as well as an M1 Ultra. As already mentioned, laser engraving plastic with a diode laser is practically useless in my opinion, as it produces a strong odor and merely melts the plastic. In this regard, the F1 Ultra, with its fiber laser, is significantly better.
XY gantry lasers are relatively slow, especially if the power output may be low as just 10W. Engraving a full-surface design on wood with a 10W diode laser would likely take at least an hour—during which time the 3D printer would be unusable.
Additionally, burnt particles settle all over the enclosure, even with strong ventilation.
I could list many more points against a hybrid device.
To me, it seems like something designed for hobbyists and small workshop users, while only the (rumored) price may be at a “prosumer” level.
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The unit must have extraordinary air filtering if it is going to contain a laser, ABS/ASA users are really going to benefit from that.
Just hope it isn’t an external filter box.
IMO, its definitely a miss, but I’ll keep an open mind until I see more about how compromised it is. If its negligible, OK… NP. But if otherwise, people are going to be vocal.
One other thing that comes to mind, cost. Developing all of the Swiss army knife features in will likely show in the cost of the machine. I was initially thinking it would be in the $1799-2199 with AMS, now I’m thinking nothing less than $2,500.
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The whole back right panel looks like it could go the entire length of the machine panel for filtering, but you’d still have to narrow it down to the size of the hose that it follows out. I’d love to see how they might implement that if the idea is indeed to filter laser engraving.
It still has the build volume i need, and the dual nozzels for the support filament. So i am getting that printer. If it comes with a laser that messes my build room, i just throw it into the trash can, if i cant order the printer without it.
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If it comes with the laser, i forsee a ton of “spare” lasers for sale on eBay / FB marketplace lol!
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There is also the possibility that the laser is for a seperate Bambu Laser Cutter. It doesn’t look like there is an attachment spot for it on the tool head. The cord looks very long and not like it will wind up nicely in the top of the printer. I know “It’s on the printer though.” Yeah, but so is a tape measure and I can guarantee you that that’s not part of the printer.
It’s been 2 years of people building up expectation of what they want in a “perfect” printer…for their individual wants/needs. You can’t please everyone, it’s simply impossible and that is okay.
Yes there were a bunch of people that were disappointed with the A1 mini release but it’s been a REALLY solid low price point printer that has sold very well into the “new to 3d printing” market. So looking back I think it was the right call to release before a larger X series.
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The perfect printer exist already. We’re just blind to it as we chase the what ifs, always looking for the greener yard to jump the fence to. It’s not enough to enjoy what we have, what we truly need.
I of course speak of the pancake printer.
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It’s very interesting to see how much in common the earlier “render” leak has with this one.
- You can even partially make out the “laser” module wording.
- The light bar on the base of the bed
- The side window and the little cutout in the base.
The real difference seems to be in the rendering of the AMS.
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Yes, it may be that the laser is not part of the new device, but then the question arises about the green-tinted panels, which are often used in such devices.
Does anyone have an idea about the function of the foldable flap on the upper front side? Could it be for ventilation during PLA prints?
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Hope the Laser is additional. I do not need that stuff.
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