bringing images over to this thread thanks to Mad_Scientist. My translator says “Real Servo Motor”
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would be a step up from steppers - but servos are expensive and for this application steppers work ok ish - closed loop steppers would be the economical choice.
No mater. I m only exited to see how they will justify the price and explain the part “never be seen before” … I mean if you take it literally they can make just about anything and that was not seen before…
I’m guessing (hoping?) it’s effective print speed. At the time it first came out, the X1C seemed really fast in comparison to most of what was on the market at the time, which was either Prusa Mk3 or Ender 3 style printers. I remember running the benchy after first setting it up and being quite pleased, and more than a little impressed, by the 18 minute benchy. There will always be high demand for faster speeds.
I dont mind waiting for the prints, as long as when they finished, that they turn out to as expected. I installed the bambu labs software and tried putting some files in there. Than i set layer high at 0.12 and scaled my 3D models down to fit on the small build plate. It sayed printing time 6,5 days and something. As long as they are finished after 6 days and there were no errors i am fine.
After some test prints i with the hopfully not to expensive H2D, i would start the bigger parts to print. If it is like the X1C in speed, i would need about 4 weeks 24/7 printing to get all my parts. I am okay with that, but i would be realy pissed if there are print errors.
I also hope i can print at least small parts with the bambu labs PA6-CF filament, because as i know i would need a heating chamber to print with that stuff so that the parts fit together afterwards.
So i think that speed is not that importened for me. I dont need to calculate the time and power costs and such stuff because i wont sell that prints.
Better the parts fit, look good and are sturdy.
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You can iterate your way to no print errors, but the state of the art isn’t yet “Push print and your complete satisfaction is 100% guaranteed” on whatever print you throw at it on the first try. Anyone here disagree? And if your cycle time is 6.5 days, I forecast that you’re in for some frustration. If you’re chasing perfection, that’s one of the reasons why I think print speed does make a difference.
Of course, you can chop up your model and test small portions of it so that maybe you don’t have to wait 6.5 days to get feedback on parts that are likely to be the hardest. That would be another way you could also cope without going mad.
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The x1 had a super lightweight print head and carbon fiber gantry. Id be surprised if this prints as fast as the smaller printers. Probably doubled or tripled gantry weight. So far, it seems like a specialty tool that(if it still purges) is really only after making support material and 2 color prints faster at the cost of complexity, $ and most likely print speed and or quality. For that slightly longer support material purge to be gone. I say this because purge waste and time is probably the biggest issue and I dont see a designated day for anything that may prevent it.
Side note, if you need a big part, youll need a big printer. If you need a bunch of parts and are afraid of failue on a big printer, use print by part.
Cutting parts adds weight to the end part and massively adds to filament use. All the inward facing walls would have been support if printed as 1 part. Not to mention the saved time and money of post processing 20 small parts into a single finished product
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Depending on how it’s priced, that might be a rather niche audience. I suppose Bambu has statistics on how many prints are two color versus three or more. Maybe it can somehow pre-load the next filament to be printed into the not-in-use hotend while the active hot-end is still printing? Or maybe get it 90% loaded and drive home the last 10% and purge when its turn comes up. Or better yet, suppose it has a tiny poop bucket on the printhead so that it can complete a full purge on the “on deck” filament during a print, and it quickly drops that turd into the poop shoot whenever it needs to? Or maybe flings it against the wall and from there the poop falls down into a bucket beneath. I’m trying to think optimistically about the full potential benefits, but that’s as far as I get in terms of how it might be faster. I hope they aren’t imagination impaired.
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Maybe there will be some compatibility with the upcoming AMS after all. Also, the cost seems to be more 200$ than the current X1C combo.
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I wonder if this means theyll stop production on the cheaper ams. Looks like the new ams may end up being $400-$500
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If you compare “the sampler” bundle of both the normal X1C combo and the X1C with AMS Pro 2 its only $100 difference. The $200 jump was skewed with one of the bundles accounting for material and other addons MatterHackers bundles in to make money.
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It’s a shame I don’t fit in to the new massive print bed following, as I’m really struggling to order a new printer. My X1c was rubbish and went back after 4 days, since then I can’t find an alternative. The X1 was the right size for me, but was very loud. I like the creality K2, it’s quiet which is important to me, but it’s too big. Qidi plus 4 quiet, too big again and you have to leave the door open to print PLA, defeating the purpose of an enclosed printer. Elegoo carbon cheap, but very loud also. Prusa core one, some say quiet, but very expensive for what you get, no hardened nozzle, plastic doors, rattling frame resonances (from some users), no camera (if you get the buddy cam is 1 frame every 10 seconds), etc. Not the best for an £1,100 printer.
A1 & A1 mini probably fit my needs, but they need more space, I don’t like the open AMS and as I share the room with it I’d rather it be enclosed to keep some of the plastic particles inside.
A K2 normal or an X1 that doesn’t sound like a bag of spanners would be nice. Anyone know of something imminent for us tinkerers rather than Etsy shop owners. 
Sovol zero
Has beacon(probably the chinese knockoff version)and
“Real-time chamber temperature monitoring with a temperature sensor, combined with the upcoming chamber heating component, ensures optimal printing temperatures for various filaments.”
“Open Source”
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Built-in Camera
The camera provides real-time monitoring and detection of the printing process (in conjunction with Obico). It also records the entire printing journey, offering time-lapse footage and providing convenience and insights into the printing experience."
Obviously based on voron, so i believe the speeds. The 1200 will be travel speed. Probably can actually print at 500-600
If you like building things, its basically a voron zero
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I did see that and I’m currently watching a video on it, but maybe I need to look at it properly. Thanks for your input.
Your posts on the K2 almost convinced me, I just don’t really have the space. Although I do keep checking for any big discounts as that could twist my arm. I only have a small bedroom turned man cave, so space and noise is at a premium for me. It’s really hard to judge noise though, most don’t mention it in reviews and others think an X1 is quiet.
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Aurora Tech says how loud in decibels (dB) each printer is.
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Here is my thought on today’s release. The dimensions of this motor are around the same size as their 9g servo with clutch protection, which is 41x20x38mm. This looks like it is a souped up microwave motor with closed loop feedback. This is probably used for the nozzle switching. I’m going out on a limb here, but this might be the extruder motor. This printer is going to be more expensive than I thought. 
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How expensive have you thought it would be? And how much more expensive do you now think it will be, following your current assessment? (your estimate )
My original guess was 1500 to 1800 for the most basic model and the combo to be 2000 to 2200. My new guess is now 1800 to 2000 for the basic and 2400-2600 for the combo. If there is a laser, 300-450 more. All estimates are in dollars.
THIS JUST IN. My cousin just cracked open a small file about the H2D. This is what it says: “Introducing the Bambu Lab H2D Combo. The next generation of 3d printing and laser engraving.”
Then at the bottom in small text:
“Laser engraver sold separate for $250”
My first guess was it will be between 3 to 4 k, taking into consideration Bambu’s only info it provided on the new printer being dedicated to highly demanding prosumers with a price…
Currently, I reckon it will range somewhere between 2.5k to 3.5k
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Anybody know where the price guess poll is?