Speculation about new printer announcements

The point is, that you may can also slate everithing on toilet paper.

A little more complicated:

Typically, god certificate has a small number at the end of the paper. But Certificates can be self-issued as well. If they have a small number, they are normaly (may not always) the issuing company is checked oder under controle of an accredited body, and so on. Ultimately, a company how sined can even have a pure Chinese website and can by have a registered office in Panama - paper always accepts everything, and asbestos was legal in Canada until 2012…I want the numbers in black and white and then I’ll see who confirmed the numbers. Before that, I`m not interested in colored logos.

And as a side note:

It`s not even matter. Even if the printer prints cleanly, the Bambu Lab printing material is very expensive; has no papers in Black and withe; the Fillament made in Europe is even cheaper or better proved. It is even a snapshot only; they’ll have to decide for themself what to do after the test.My printers are in a separate room or have an exhaust system — so before I look at anything else, I want a printer that delivers and is easy to maintain.

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Why wasn’t this a Bambu product? Would have been great synergy.

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Almost 10k… way to costly for a hobbyist’s purse… though I wouldn’t say no to have a test run with it.

My bad… double checking, it’s around 2-2.5k at this time, with 30% off on Kickstarter…

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Here is the result.

It’s not the printer that is certified, it’s the ink.

The CURED ink.

So in other words the process of printing in your home is not certified, it’s only the printed objects themselves, after printing, that are.

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And just to show how closely people are looking at it and Since Tüv süd is listed as well…

TĂźv SĂźd is zerdified by the Accreditatit National body DAKKS (As far as I know, national bodies have state mandate):

https://www.dakks.de/en/search-result.html

So currently, TĂźv SĂźd has been audited on the following points true DAKKS on the following points:

  • Testing Laboratory (69 Retrievable certificate with detailed description of the test field)

  • Calibration Laboratory (7 Retrievable certificate with detailed description of the test field)

  • Medical Laboratory (1 Retrievable certificate with detailed description of the test field)

  • Inspection Body (17 Retrievable certificate with detailed description of the test field)

  • Certification Body for Products (25 Retrievable certificate with detailed description of the test field)

  • Certification Body for Management Systems (9 Retrievable certificate with detailed description of the test field)

  • Certification Body for Persons (4 Retrievable certificate with detailed description of the test field)

  • Verification Body (1 Retrievable certificate with detailed description of the test field)

Of cours the DAKKS will acapt also companies Certificated by a national Body as the SAS. So at least someone check what they check. Nobody still knows how and for which values ​​the tests were carried out.

As I said, I want a printer that prints; anything else can be also stamped on toilet paper or will coste money.

Well, may somewere still in use, but ther was a CE called “China Exprot”. With a little more distance between C and the E.

In the meantime – and certainly not limited to China – the documents are either available for download right next to the product or they aren’t available there (If they are not there is usually allready the statement needed). Searching for them is usually pointless; Those who have them will post them online anyway (because then they’ll show how well they’ve done it). There are exceptions.

e.G. document decripting special purooses of filaments, printers von Medical aplications and so on. If not, keep the Product or use it for unencessari things.

And as a side note and if it matters, let say fillament for FDA @neverdie e.g. skin contact of TPU :wink: - I also want to know when the test was conducted (once or repeatedly), and who pulled the sample to be tested from production: an internal person in production, an internal person from a QM department, an external person… and if external, what level of monitoring was involved. Depends entirely on the degree of danger and the number of people at risk.

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So… Wondermaker added new type for their kickstarter printer: ZR Ultra-S - which is enclosed (sealed as they call it) ZR Ultra with heated chamber…

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wondermaker/zr-and-zrultra?ref=recommendation-projectpage-footer-3&category_id=Q2F0ZWdvcnktMzMx

This gets more interesting…

I’ve checked the price: In order to get the “sealed” version one has to take “ultra + enclosure kit” which comes to about 719 EUR… Which makes it cheaper than even Enclosed Sovol SV08 (not including cost of tools)…

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Is there a way on polymarket I can bet against a kickstarter getting delivered?

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Which seems more far-fetched and likely to fail? WonderMaker ZR Ultra or Elyarchi Alcheman?

I bet each one fails faster than one of these wristwatches:
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You might get one or two prints before it burns up or otherwise fails.

This guys review should give anyone pause:

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Maybe not quite the right topic but somehow…

TPU is not the only printing material that plays in the top league with its intended use case - but it is may the cheapest of those.

Fortunately, it’s not my top priority and the S1 doesn’t manage it the way I would imagine, the ACE can but is in my way may too unstable, too insensitive and I stopped using it (but I wouldn’t give up the printer under any circumstances, even if I only work with USB sticks for the sake of simplicity).

Why am I saying this here, and I’ve been thinking this for a long time:

I think TPU will be the field where FDM has a good chance in the long run. It’s the only thing that can compete at an extremely high level (Also in terms of casting and injection molding), and it’s not something that I never ever should be limited in its range of applications or confined to a single supplier. Were I should use suppliers with clean Paperwork.

And people are starting to notice it:

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Well, I do not dry my fillament but I like if ones in a life time companies start using there head :slight_smile:

Maybe an attachment for 2 kg spools, they’ll surely come to that at some point :wink:

Finally, the modular expandable option is being considered. Also the AMS 2 times on the X1C and so, unfortunately a bit late because I don’t need the AMS2 anymore since the X1C already change into a back up (because of the price calculation).

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any news ;)? I can’t wait to get news!

Here’s some news:

  • Wondermaker posted video of their new printer in “working mode” + assembly line for printers. The video showed alignment issues, freezing etc. Currently a lot of comments on their kickstarter are mentioning dropping pledges due to print issues and lack of response from wondermaker team addressing the issues
  • Elyarchi kickstarter is “successful” but due to issues pointed out by YGK3D a lot of components have to be changed on production machines, multiple people cancelled due to identified problems.

I’m currently leaning towards thinking both will fail, the question is how badly.

On “not fail” side however is Bondtech INDX - this will make “multi-tool” printers far more accessible and their timeline is saner than promissed by both Wondermaker & Elyarchi. Bondtech will make kits available for popular models of printers so that converting them into multi-tool will be nicer experience. Additionally, once final dimmensions and design is frozen, Bondtech will release CAD files so that people wanting to be ready on day 1 will be able to have ready printed parts.

On speculation side - there is/are embargoed news in 3D printer world in hands of reviewers (as always) so there’ll be some news soon.

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nice thank you for the summary :slight_smile:

If you missed it.

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There’s still a chance the Thinker X400 might deliver on its promises, even if it’s from an unknown printer manufacturer. If it runs plain vanilla Klipper, and not some fork of Klipper, then it will be “game on”. But, boy, did the price go up on it or what? The “pre-sale” price is now $2,499. Is that because of tariffs or was it always that high? I don’t remember. And for that price, it’s missing some obvious things, like a hotend that can go hotter than 300C. Also, it looks a bit old-school, it that it’s put together with sticks of extruded aluminum rather than steel, so it may be facing the usual racking issues once the belts get tightened, but more so because of the greater lengths of extruded aluminum.

Speaking of which, the tolerances on my H2D are just extreme. I had to replace the camera on mine (which was a success by the way) due to a failed live camera calibration. The camera PCB is screwed into and heat-staked into a piece of plastic that, as it happens, sits just over the top of one of the z-axis screws, with a plastic cap that serves no discernable purpose other than aesthetics. There is next to no clearance between that plastic cap (which is effectively “floating” over the top of that z-axis screw) and the edge of the top of the screw (which is left unconstrained). If that screw were even slightly bent (like it surely would be on a, ahem, creality machine), then the metal of the screw would be squeeking against the plastic of the floating cap. But on the H2D the two don’t rub, and it doesn’t squeek. Very, very tight tolerances. Seems like needlessly tight for a mass produced machine, so I don’t know whether to be impressed at their production or instead think that the design was inviting disaster that their manufacturing accuracy managed to skirt. Just one thing, but looking inside, the clearances on other parts look to be very tight as well. Maybe it’s this that makes it vulnerable to shipping damage. It seems like most of the people who got “lemons” actually got shipping damage rather than lemons per se. However, with such tight tolerances, I’m a bit skeptical the end user can necessarily put humpty dumpty back together again. If something arrives bent just a little bit, it might require a return. Luckily mine seems to have arrived OK in that regard.

This bugged me, haha

When it was doing the dual nozzle, there was a bit of filament hanging down that then got deposited onto the model.


This too. All these loose filament strands. It stands out to me because I think about the ooze stopper strip thing for blocking the un-used nozzle. To me that seems like something that could potentially easily catch on something and cause damage. So when I see the messy strands, it just… ahh, is that gonna be a problem?!

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@Josh-3D I’d ticket that if I were you. The turnaround time on tickets is pretty good, at least if you’re in the beta program. You’ve got the photos already, so little more is required to submit your ticket. Given the complexity of the printhead, it might require an entire printhead replacement.

Those are screenshots from the video that StreetSports posted

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