Meanwhile, Aurora Tech just have the K2 Plus her endorsement:
and calls it Creality’s best printer yet!
and calls it Creality’s best printer yet!
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There is always a bit of sarcasm. I can rant for a long time at BL to be honest. Their shitty move with FW, hidden parts revision, and MQTT fiasco still makes me twitching.
We gotta give BL a credit that pushed industry to innovate (finally) but I’m seriously afraid that they are not up to a competition.
I think everyone is so fed up with the trajectory and being taken for granted that there’s now some bitterness and a desire to move on. Why else would the Prusa announcement garner so much excitement? It’s because it’s the opposite of that. This is probably the most postings on this thread in one day–ever.
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I have to agree with with giving credit where credit is due, and while Bambu’s X1C pushed competitors and forced them to take steps forward or be stepped over, i reserve the right to pass judgment on whether Bambu will hold on (or not) a few months after they launch their famed and long awaited new flagship printer in Q1/2024.
Im that crazy guy that thinks klipper/input shaper/Voron/prusa slicer/orca is responsible and Bambu just happened to be the first out the gate. Helped by kickstarter, open sourced software and big money backers. That crazy guy in the room.
In my eyes, I see vorons and Mmu’s everytwhere. Only with very low end hardware until recently
You are not wrong, you know…
The thing is - I was telling this a year ago lol, but everybody were like “nah, it will be fine” and then all typical to companies like that stuff happened.
Q1 2024? Or 2025? Typo, or are you talking about their original promise of 2024 when they announced A1 large instead lol.
Well… not really.
Vorons became popular only a few years ago. MMU was in Prusa’s hands. EnragedRabbit and BoxTurtle are projects “after” AMS.
BL did graciously - they’ve combined all those features together. They did not do great job, but very decent.
But now all competition are doing the same thing and often for less. QIDI is a prime example. It’s pretty much the same device but with heater and costs less.
What we need to realize as a community - that BL is company with subpar component selection. Expecting from them $1.5-2k device is my opinion is crazy. It may have all bells and whistles - but will start to fall apart exactly the same way as X1s and P1s and after few years will turn into a pumpkin (allegedly).
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The self assembly kit won’t be available until April 
… also I emailed PrintedSolid and they aren’t doing pre-orders, they said in Jan when they start shipping from Prusa they’ll go live on their site. I… must… learn… patience… gahhh so hard!
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typo… but subconsciously I think I also wanted to point the A1 fluke. 
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Patience, young Padawan, is a virtue that comes once you mastered the dark side of the Force…
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Am I the only one in the world that is still exceeding happy with their X1C? Like I’ve barely even had issues, especially considering how much I’ve used this thing. I don’t even see any reason to jump to some other manufacture. I haven’t seen anything all that stand out from others. Not to the extent that I think well forget Bambu, or even to the extent that I think maybe this would be fun to play with. Prusa’s offering might have excited me pre-bambu, but even with the X1C’s older self, I still would prefer that (for various reasons).
I’m more interested in the Prusa XL printer
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if it’s with all 5 toolheads, then it’s worth your time and dime… but beware, is way much slower than any of Bambu’s printers. However, it’s much less of a filament pooping machine than Bambu’s.
No, I’m still with you Josh. I have 3 X1Cs and I can’t see myself ever getting rid of them. I’ll be the first to tell you there’s nothing logical about how I function lol. I’m every corporations dream… a single middle age man with a healthy expendable income and a slight spending addiction 
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The whole pricing structure of the XL was so disappointing/frustrating. Well, it’s partly frustration with myself because I don’t have a whole lot of money. It got me though, because the cost of adding on each tool head is so expensive. The 2 headed version, you’re paying 500 dollars for that extra tool head, for the 5 head version, it’s 375 per a tool head.
I just don’t see how it cost that much, and struggle to justify that added cost for each tool head. I could probably push it for the base XL, but as a single tool head printer, it’s a bit more meh.
I’m still rather interested in it though. The whole design of the frame and how it is open is something I toyed with for awhile, when looking to do a larger CoreXY type printer (The one I built at home was a 200x200x200 sized one). I don’t care so much about the poop issue, but I think like being able to layer TPU in with other materials would be nice.
I do think their new Core One printer is neat; don’t get me wrong. Ah, I’m over that size of build plate though; I struggle as it is getting stuff to fit on Bambu’s plate. The price is decent though, even if it does feel a little more costly vs the bambu offerings.
Eh, okay. I said what I said, but I do think all the offerings that have come up in the past year are pretty neat, and it would be fun/curious to get to try and poke at them. I do wish I could more. I wish I had more time/money/space for that. Haha.
If anything, I would like to build a Voron still. I’m a bit past all those sorts of days, but I think that’s one project that still tugs at my tinkering heart strings.
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I love my bambus as workhorses. For the hobby/builder/tinkerer side of me, they arent exactly fun. Very disposable also. Meaning, in 5 years, landfills will be full of them. The prusa will probanly get updates for the next decade, be backwards compatible for the next 3 gens and have a whole modding community built around it. Want 100mm/s3 flow rate? swap the hotend.
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I’m owning an XL dual toolhead for about 2 years now, and have finally managed to order the remaining 3. Hopefully, I’ll get them towards the end of next week so i can mount and test them during the weekend. I’m pretty much satisfied with how it performs, and once I manage to complete its enclosure (hopefully by the end of the year), i can just sit back and leisurely watch the manufacturers fight for market share, with their new launches, including Bambu’s gen 2 series.
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Umm… X-axis VFA due to a smooth idler on a GT2 belt?
umm VFA on high temp materials? Hello?
I mean, if only thing you do is print PLA - then you don’t need anything more than A1. I’ve seen so many people saying “everything is great” and then you look - they print PLA only. My first thought is why the hell buy $1k+ machine for PLA? lol
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I really wanted Rat Rig VCore4 with IDEX system. But the footprint of the machine… brrr…I don’t have that much space haha
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