Speculation about new printer announcements

At not pro, maximum accessibility because there are no side walls.

In general:

Completely replaceable print head even with a cheap replacement print head.

How accessible is the rear Z spindle on the X1C? It’s an easy reach on the Flashfroge. Of course it could certainly be better, but soon you won’t be able to hide it any more than on the X1C - unless you even screw something in front of it… :wink:

All PTFE tubes can be reached immediately, without loosening a single screw. I’m really looking forward to the new material changing system, it looks like the motto also applies there.

I only had a few things to fix on the X1C but I only had one fix on the M5`s - On the M5 I only had to realign the base prtint plate on one printer (after some time of use). So loosening the lower Z-belt. Turned the Z-spindles so that the plate was at the bottom at all points. Put the belt back on and done. It was a 4 minute action. Then another 4 minute email to Flashfroge that repair instructions of them are too complicated (which they send to my be E-Mail after 3 hours :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:), other printer manufactorers had the same issue and to realine the bed plate thrue the Z-Belt is the comon, fastest way to go…

Unimaginable, you even get an email address from them :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: They answer them in a day and do not do it with a ticket after a login that immediately imposes a Makerword account etc. That alone (only repair ticked by login on an account) is reason enough why I would never download anything from Markerworld… Too much selling, not enough sustainable action and only once a big hit.

And best of all, without having to pay much more as by Bambu: I have an easy-to-reach local dealer to whom I can return the Flashfroge for repair with an extended 3 year warranty if something should happen. It’s unbelievable when I hear things like: “We’ll send you the spare parts for free” should I say thank you for this? No, the manufacturer is responsible for the entire repair until it works again, I’m not the drill technician for everyone…

Is the Peopoly fatally flawed? I would have thought that for an enclosed printer at this reduced price, with its 300x400mm build area and with its fancy kinematic system, it would be generating excitement… but it doesn’t seem to be:


Even the teaching tech review seemed to be polite but largely damning it with faint praise. What’s the real story?

From what ive heard, its still in beta. Pretty much.

I didnt get one because I feel like magnets lose their magnitism over time and thats all the peopoly really has going for it. I honestly dont know what the magnet rail brought to the table. I assumed it would be speed and quality, but that doesn seem to be the case, based on running vids.

They are clearly not ready, yet, and obviously they’ve run into a bunch of unforseen tech issues that they’ve most likely failed to address. At least, that’s my take on them (also based on a number of recent video reviews)

The stepper motors in your present printer also rely on magnetism so I’m not sure if your concerns are valid.

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Little different situation.
Magnets in magnetic linear motors can potentially lose magnetism faster than some other applications due to factors like high operating temperatures, strong demagnetizing fields within the motor design, and potential mechanical stresses, but the rate of loss largely depends on the type of magnet material used and its operating conditions; if properly selected and maintained, they can still have a long lifespan"
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Could this be evidence of a multi tool head printer?

Well that’s definitely the A1 Mini with two print heads… If that’s what they release in Q1 2025 I’m retreating to a bunker with a years worth of food and wait out the riots.

On the other hand if there’s some easy way to add a second print head and AMS lite to the A1 Mini I’d probably buy it.

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well i wonder what the heck is a spray head on that patent… and is that patent even from bambu ?

Lol, I didn’t see a spray head. But yeah, “Shenzhen Tuozhu Technology Co Ltd” is Bambu.

Auto-translation from Chinese patent. Ha. It’s funny I was thinking just last night about making the AMS system faster simply by having two heads and optimizing when each one switches filaments individually so that they overlap in someway. It doesn’t seem to me, though that the gain would be huge, And I figured that they would run into the same alignment problems that all IDEX printers have. Though they may use some new novel, optical alignment of the nozzle orifices.

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Looks like it could also be a single print head with dual nozzles.

so your saying a shower nozzle or a spray nozzle is badly translate from the chinese language or did i get this wrong ?

If you go to the patent, open the PDF. It is in chineese. That leads me to believe the Google patents version is auto translated.

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As with all patents, they cover their ass with every possible situation, but the picture sure looks exactly like an A1 with two extruders. The pictures are in the PDF.

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Nice! So an eight colour AMS lite A1 Mini (and also hopefully an A1 at some point) is on the cards…

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It’s possible they used the a1 mini as a reference to protect the real thing and just show proof of concept. They know we will look and find their patents lol

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In the PDF they have a table which I believe is a listing of the efficiency gains by number of filament swaps required. It looks like only reduces swaps by 33%… And it requires two AMS units, at least from the illustrations.

If you’re running a print farm and you print many objects that only have two colors or two materials, This will save you a ton of time, because there would be no swaps needed. As the number of colors or materials increases the difference in time between this and the way the AMS system works today would get smaller and small smaller.

It seems like basically an IDEX System that can use multiple AMSes. This feels like an incremental improvement that takes up a lot of space, And doesn’t change things much for most people who print a lot of colors. Maybe not exciting enough for the main product they’re planning on releasing?

In fact, if they were going to go IDEX, I would do it for the enclosed printers, because it would really speed up printing with one engineering material and a support material.

My guess is they just registered this because it’s an extension of what they already offer, Not because this is necessarily gonna be the next “big thing.” And, it’s from months ago. I would think anything revolutionary they would drop as a provisional pattern right before they release the product to prevent the kind of guessing that we’re doing.

But, I could be 100% wrong!!!

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That’s basically all I want idex or dual nozzle for, quick use of support material. I would never not use support material lol. I don’t right now unless it’s like a large 90° overhang.

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Good info. Looks like their two employees invented the method and assigned the patent to the company. It’s patent pending.

If the breakthrough is about this, it will fullfill one of my wishes: waste less filaments when color printing. I have had to drop ideas when the designs need multi-color printing but the colors cannot be assigned by layer height to minimize the waste.

I also hope that’s not the only breakthrough. I would like to see a redesign of the AMS system, which in my opinion is the Archilles’ heel. A new design that has fewer joints/connections can help to reduce the chances of problems. Or at least the AMS should be easier to open up to trouble shoot if the filament gets stuck.

Yet another wish is to have finished prints automatically removed from the plate and the plate be ready for the next print.

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