I could ask the same of you, where is your proof? If you have any legitimate proof? You are the one saying it is a problem yet you haven’t backed it up in any way other than saying that the defaults are 0.2 mm. Just because the defaults have the first layer height at 0.2 mm doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with setting it to 0.16 mm.
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It is called the “cool plate” for a reason, it is meant to be used at lower temperatures, definitely not 50 C.
Most people, myself included, have no adhesion issues with the cool plate using either the glue stick or liquid glue. So your case is the odd one out, either there is something wrong with the bed or how you are using it.
Why would they do that when it works fine for the majority of people at 35 C? Why should they change it just because of your experience which is different from most other people’s? If yours is so different from the defaults and different from other people’s experience then that should tell you that there is something wrong with your bed or how you are using it.
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Proof is all over the internet, and some YT videos. Also the picture I shared above, showing Bambu Slicer going from 0.16mm to 0.2mm for default settings.
It was a common problem when people were using dynamic layer line, which put a 0.1mm layer line on their print and had more bed adhesion issues.
I am still waiting for your proofs.
It has gotten cold, and temps matter a lot. In the winter, an enclosure is required in many places.
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I wasn’t aware that I was complaining as such, but perhaps we can put this to ‘bed’ with the fact that everything I printed yesterday (all AMS Desiccant-related) worked flawlessly. Same me - same machine. Perhaps I’m learning!
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Bambu has made 3d printing easier and more accessible to the non-technical user, but while they are good, they’re not perfect. It should be expected that sometimes prints will just fail, and learning to troubleshoot issues will go a long way.
That said, i don’t have sympathy for anyone who turns into a cry baby and lashes out because they got a one star rating.
At least someone who’s new, inexperienced, and willing to learn 3d printing can be taught to troubleshoot and set expectations accordingly. Trying to teach a dick to be decent human being, that’s damn near impossible.
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I don’t see any value in rating a profile, in fact it’s quite the opposite. We should be able to rate the model not the profile. For example, a guy like clockspring3d draws models with 3d printing in mind and very often they won’t need supports or modifiers to print. So he spends a month creating a model and prints it with all the default/stock profiles. Then there’s the guy who makes model with no flat sides in 5mins and needs every modifier and support known to man to get it to print. In this case the 1st model is excellent and 2nd maybe junk, but we have to rate profiles. It just doesn’t seem fair to me. The contests should also have a weighted scoring system where the actual model scores the bulk of the points, after all it is MakerWorld not Social Media & Web developing world.
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Ive not seen anyone lashing out on here just people fed up with people expecting everything just handed to them with zero effort from them.
Ive recently started printing some do3d helmets and had a few failures after many hours and plenty of grams of filament, did i go crying to do3d no i realised my setting were probably wrong learned from my mistakes and tried again. As simple as bambu have made it 3d printing is still a involved hobby that takes time and effort to get right and people need to learn that includes their time and effort as well.
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Cruse, I hear what you’re saying. And I get it. 3d printing has traditionally been an endevor that required technical know how to be successful at, driven by a desire to learn how 3d printing works.
While the X1C itself was revolutionary for the industry and those of us already into 3d printing, the real revolution was that Bambu was able to market it to people who didn’t know or care how 3d printers work, because it mostly just works. Bambu sold the idea that users no longer needed to be tinkerers or learn the technical aspects, the printer would just work and the files in thier repository would just work.
While I understand your sentiment and see your perspective, I think you need to go easy on the guy who says he thinks its fair to have the expectation that files on MakerWorld should just work without any action from him. That’s exactly what he was sold by Bambu, the idea of owning printer that worked with minimal user intervention and access to an ecosystem of files that would print without intervention, first time, every time.
It may not be your job to teach users how to troubleshoot 3d printers and print failures, but in fairness, they were told and sold on the idea that by paying a premium to buy into the Bambu printer and ecosystem, they wouldn’t need to.
i wish i could like this more.
My biggest gripe right now with these reviews, and sorts of people, is that they’re treating creators like literal servants. We provide the files for FREE, we offer support where we CAN. It’s NOT our job to be your Print Technician or to teach you how to 3D print, configure your files, or make profiles for every type of printer setup under the sun.
We had to learn how to 3D model AND 3D print. Knowing how to make models helps a lot with configuring a model for printing, and vice versa. So the least the user can do is research their machine and how to use it properly.
If someone wants me to do it for them, they should pay me for it, because I’m here providing a free service doesn’t give users the right to treat me like trash.
MakerWorld has a lot to learn when it comes to handling its inexperienced user base and protecting its content providers from said inexperienced users and content theft (both which are rife at the moment).
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Ive never seen a bambu add promote minimal user interaction, but if they have surely minimal interaction is to make sure your bed is clean, lets face it that is always going to be a requirement no matter how advanced 3d printers get.
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There is a clear issue atm for my own models when using other PLA Matte filament to a point I might have to only use BAMBU official version now. This issue only started when I updated to latest firmware, for what every reason, the first layer is constantly getting adhesion problem. This is a combination of over extrusion leading to increased stringing that form a mass where the nozzle will proceed to ‘mop’ up all the prints from the bed.
I wish I could do raitings for designs, I tend not to use premade profiles.
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I’m pretty sure people aren’t washing their plates with soap often enough and touch them with their hands leaving oil all over the plate and then complain about bed adhesion.
It’s pathetic, since every single print I started from the app, printed absolutely perfectly.
We all know, at least I hope people aren’t that dull, but PLA sticks absolutely perfectly to the High Temp Smooth PEI plate without warping a single bit, no matter the size or length of the object. It even says you don’t need glue for PLA on the A1 Mini Smooth PEI plate
PETG doesn’t care about anything that might affect it badly so it’s a beauty to print with.
Nylon, ABS and ASA…also print like a charm on these machines.
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This makes no sense for me. If I find something on Makerworld that I’d like to print it, 99% of them don’t have a specific profile for the new A1, despite the fact that A1 is most likely included as a name in that list of printers on each model/profile listed on the website. Whatever is the first printer listed on the selected profile (on the website), that is the default profile that is loading.
So, most of the time when I hit open in Bambu, it’s loading P1 or X1 profiles. I have to change to my (default) system profile with my specific printer and nozzle, click transfer settings (if any), and that’s it. From what it seems, unless you have all Bambu printers and upload a profile for each printer on that model, you’re uploading settings for your specific printer and not for all, therefore people have to change the settings regardless.
Now, more related to this thread, I gave plenty of 5* because I had no issues, despite no description. I had to give someone a 3* (should have been 1) because the geometry was wrong for some nuts (nuts and bolts). I had to load it in Blender and make a screenshot of the difference to justify my rating (or I could have just leave it empty, no explanation). I don’t know how people can have hundreds of likes but literally just post a screenshot of your slicer instead of the real printed object (makes) in the description. I guess I should stay away from models that don’t have a real print example. I also found out that these models are on other websites but with different name, so it’s probably copy pasted here with no real effort. The ones posting these models and print profiles are guilty as well. And yes, plenty of models have default 0.16 instead of 0.2 and I manually change it.
It makes perfect sense, if you’ve changed the profile in any way you shouldn’t rate the profile because you’ve not used it
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If you change the profile, because it does not match your printer, then you upload that profile to the model. If your modifications don’t work, you don’t rate the original profile, because you didn’t use that profile.
Basically, what cruse2382 said.
Also, if you’re seeing models being uploaded without real pictures, this is against the new MakerWorld rules and you should report them. Models have to show successful prints; they can include renders as additional images but must include at least one real photo.
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Well, you can tell that to Bambu, not the users. Nobody is reading this thread, aside from a few, You’re saying how it should be, and I understand that, but not how it actually is right now. It’s the system’s fault, trying to get you to rate it, giving you default profiles (open in bambu) for other printers (despite mentioning in the profile list that it has your printer as well - it doesn’t).
If we go even further, it’s actually the uploader’s fault in many cases, because some models have just one printer in the profile, so then you can say it’s the user’s fault when they print with another printer. There are profiles that are for a specific printer and don’t mention other printers (i.e. P1P), while many other models have the default profile mentioning all the printers (P1P, P1S, X1, X1 Carbon, X1E, A1) in the Bambu’s shop (while having one profile). So I guess there is a setting where you can restrict that. As long as you mention all the printers in the uploaded profile, then the user will find your model by search, and print it, just like I did.
I may be wrong but i believe no profile has “just one printer in the profile”.
You dont really select a printer when uploading as far as i know you upload it for the printer you use and if its any printer other than the mini it adds the rest of the printers and i assume if you upload a a1 mini profile the it with all printers (may be wrong as i dont have a a1 mini so never tried it.
Here’s a scenario for you: I make a model, I test print it for months on an X1 Carbon. I upload it, the profile says it works on all printers (because Bambu Lab has that as the standard for the X1 Carbon).
A user then tells me it does not work on P1S. I don’t own a P1S. I try to help work things out with them to find out the problem. We work it out, and I share what helped make it work in text only (it’s their responsibility to upload the profile, as THEY tested it. I did NOT test it, so I CAN’T upload it. I would be lying saying it passed my test process otherwise, which is against the rules!)
Another scenario: same model, tested on X1 Carbon again. User comes to me and says they have a problem printing on the A1. Lucky this time, I own an A1 and work out the problem with them. I run my own test prints on the A1, so I upload my own A1 profile because it passed my test prints for that profile.
You complained in your previous post about all the models being uploaded without pictures, and without proof they passed a print test. This is the exact thing you were complaining about; the idea that we creators need to make a print profile just for your printer type, but we cannot test our content on machines we do not have; it’s not only against the rules to say a model passed a print test when you haven’t tested it, it’s unethical.
The ONLY models I have seen where printers are individually specified have been the A1 and A1 Mini. The rest all get bundled together in one profile and there is no way to change that on MakerWorld, which even if we COULD change it, the mass of users won’t notice it because the text is tiny on the profile and is easy to miss, so people will still end up trying to print a profile made for a P1S on an A1mini.
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