the profile is set in the Bambu Studio slicer. When you upload it, makerWorld auto-detects what the profile is made for. If you select X1, X1C, X1E, P1P, or P1S, then it just bundles them all into one profile type and slaps the A1 on that list too, even though I’ve had experience from users that not all X1C profiles work on a P1S, and vice versa.
So far, the only machine I manually select for print profiles that get listed separately is the A1, and I have seen the A1 Mini as a separate printer too.
This profile evaluation by people who are often completely inexperienced in 3D printing is quite annoying. My (mostly positively reviewed) profiles occasionally get bad reviews for “poor bed adhesion”, “stringing”, “interrupted prints” and because guys can’t hear my ultrasonic whistles (surprise). I should stop reading the comments…
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Let’s start with the first and second scenario. Nothing that I didn’t know so far. What I’m saying is from the general public perspective, not my own experience. I know how to change things to work for my own printer.
Anyway, for the majority, even if your profile mention (bundles) all the printers, it should be mentioned somewhere by the uploader that it worked on your printer and might not work on another, assuming people do read descriptions. Although it should be obvious when you open it in the Bambu studio that you have another printer profile, but I guess many just don’t pay attentions to these details, since we still find some people doing basic mistakes, with the wrong plate or nozzle selected. If you read on reddit or other places, there is a lot of confusion about many things. There is a reason for why companies put labels on everything (don’t eat, hot surface and so on). Until Bambu does something and let you specify profiles (like only A1 mini or A1) for the older printers, people will make mistakes and the creators will get the blame.
Also if you read my post, the complain was about people not uploading a print test as proof not because of the profile, but in my case was because the geometry was wrong. There is no printer or profile that could have fixed that (maybe contour and hole compensation might work) because it was design flaw with one of the pieces. I can blame myself for not designing my own stuff and go the lazy way and get one already made, with no picture of the real thing, just a studio screenshot), and nothing relevant in the description. Anyway, this is probably for another topic, with Makerworld being invaded with models that people didn’t create and test themselves, and it’s just a copy paste without the most vital part, the description of the original post they copied from…
Are you for real? Do we need to do everything for you
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also, I have done this in my descriptions, which users have proven they do not read, and then they still blame me for my profiles not working on their printer, even though it is a user error. I have given up trying to help people like this in my comments/feedback; they prove that they don’t want to read or learn.
If I say “Use cool plate only, apply fresh glue on a clean plate before printing to avoid print defects/failures” and then see a user using the textured pei plate, then complaining the model doesn’t print, it proves they didn’t read the description and are not prepared to learn anything. Theys ee a wall of text and probably think it’s just a background on how the model was made, rather than something with critical information in it.
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I have that too.
I started sending links to Problem-Solving sites in Bambu-wiki and other Sites as awnser to there Posts…
They have to learn, that 3D-Printing is more than melting plastic…
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For me? Well, if you can’t even read properly…
It’s for the people that you blame they give you low ratings. I was explaining what is happening. Why even I bother. Don’t blame me if they still do it.
LE: Anyway, you should be aware that people that use only the phone app have it a bit worse. I suspect many do use the phone app only. If your published profile is for X1 but all the printers are listed in the profile, you can choose your printer, let’s say P1 or A1 or whatever else, and you get the same profile for all printers. It seems to auto select the proper plate but no other settings, from my little testing. So yes, until Bambu solve all these issues, you have to babysit your complainers,
Oh pish posh. This it utter malarky I tell you
Little testing sounds right here. If you are going to choose to selectively complain because you can’t get your own machine sorted out, we have an equal right to b** about you and how obtuse your own notion of what 3d printing even is.
It sounds like you need to return your 3D printer and spend that money on a company that does the printing for you. There are tons out there, you contact them with an idea or a 3d model and they charge you for it. It’ll save you time and effort in the long run since it sounds like you don’t even want to attempt to learn
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So yes, until Bambu solve all these issues, you have to babysit your complainers,
Sure, if the complainers are prepared to pay me for my time. Because guess what? 3D Modelling is my job, and I have other clients who need my time more because they’ve paid me to do that job for them. A free model I uploaded, that works great on my machine (and anyone else’s who knows how to configure it properly)? Not worth my top priority; the clients who pay for my time get top priority, and that includes my Patron subscribers. If they have a free model issue, I sort it out right away, I treat them like my clients.
Creators are busy enough as is, we don’t have to do anything for those who complain about their machines printing poorly. If they have an issue, related to their machine, they need to contact the people who are being paid to handle those issues: tech support.
Oh, but tech support is slow/wasn’t useful? That’s Bambu Lab’s problem. Not ours…
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Oh wow so your proof is just “some YouTube videos said so”, and that the default changed in a slicer, is that really the best you can come up with?
Also you are the one that is coming out and saying it doesn’t work, so the burden of proof is on you. You are the one coming out and saying something that is widely accepted as fine, isn’t.
There is nothing special or magical about 0.2 mm, on a well setup printer most other first layer heights will work, like even down to 0.1 mm or lower. I’ve printed at 0.05 mm layer heights on a smooth PEI bed on an ender 3, it worked fine and have often printed at 0.1 mm on an ender 3 and X1C, they work fine. The X1C in general and the beds are much higher quality than the parts on my ender 3.
First layer height on a well setup printer doesn’t matter, if you are having issues when changing from 0.2 mm to 0.16 mm then there is something wrong with your printer or how you use it.
Well yeah, if the model prints fine on the creators printer but doesn’t work on a different printer then it is likely to be the users fault.
You seem to think there is so much of a difference between bambu labs printers. There isn’t. All of their printers will print PLA fine with the exact same settings, just sliced for different printers. The P1S and X1C will print most materials pretty much the same too.
You shouldn’t need to change print settings to print it on a different printer, just select the right printer and bed in the slicer and then slice and print.
If you weren’t complaining then what were you doing? You were pretty clearly complaining.
I was going to reply, but it would appear that the thread has been effectively closed/solved. You’ve made your point - perhaps some would say too many times - give it a rest!
Since when this is about me? Another one who can’t properly read properly but likes to join the sheep crowd. Read, stop writing non-sense. I already mentioned I don’t have a problem of my own, only describing what your crowd might have, by reading complains and reddit.
Nice for you to assume how much I know about 3d and 3d printing. You’re new to the community and started with complains and being obtuse on purpose, so here is another complain from you that you don’t even understand, but you like chiming in for no reason.
Anyway, moving on. My only problem was once with a geometry and not the profile. Most people can’t even spot that. Most likely not you.
If you keep insisting I’m to blame for your own problems you have, with your own complainers and customers, well, this is the most non-sense and lack of logic thing I’ve seen on this forum. Your frustration is showing up. I suggest to take it up with your customers not with me. Saying this in the nicest way possible…
I agree with most of the post but this one is a bit weird.
You said it yourself, 3d modeling is your job. Mine was too, almost 20 years ago ( professionally). I understand it can’t be easy. But in this case, you’re the one providing the service. You’re the one modeling and posting online. People that complain, if you have any of those, they will blame you, they won’t go to Bambu. Bambu will solve only printer’s issues not print issues. Most you can do is provide links to already solved a million times issues, but it’s not your fault either if for you it’s working and for them it’s not. So they will give you a bad rating for the wrong reasons, which I guess it’s the reason someone started this thread.
If you make an abstraction from the printer’s direct interface, most of what we do is directly from the studio. In this case there isn’t much of a difference, if any at all. Although many on this forum believe something like A1 mini is a toy for kids and X1 is for experts, and A1 mini will work as any appliance and you have nothing to do… which is quite wrong. When it comes to the hardware, the difference is there, especially between corexy and bedslingers, speed differences, extruders, open air and so on. Some people pointed out before, not all X1 prints will work the same on P1, and the other way around. Most likely with A1 as well, and since it’s a slower printer, it will be a different experience even on the same materials. I’ve already seen people complaining about not able to print petg on the new bedslingers, with the same settings.
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I agree with most of the post but this one is a bit weird.
But in this case, you’re the one providing the service. You’re the one modeling and posting online. People that complain, if you have any of those, they will blame you, they won’t go to Bambu. Bambu will solve only printer’s issues not print issues.
You don’t get it and won’t,. I’m done.
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Maybe you should take the advice you keep giving to others and try reading. I said PLA will print the same. PETG is known for potentially requiring an enclosure to print at full strength and just all round being more difficult to print than PLA.
Of course there are physical differences in how the machines are made but most of that doesn’t matter when considering if a print will fail or not when using PLA which is what the vast majority of people print in.
The printers are built well enough that the differences don’t really matter in terms of print results.
Considering they use the same motion system and same extruder and same beds this is just nonsense. The only reason this would apply is trying to print parts in materials that need an enclosure on the P1P or trying to print fast with materials that need the extra cooling from the auxiliary fan on the X1C but again the P1P being unenclosed should counter that.
There are zero technical reasons that a print that works on a P1P or P1S won’t work on the X1C, if the X1C is set up right. Similarly in PLA there is no real reason that prints on the X1C won’t work on a P series printer or even an A series printer.
Except they aren’t providing a service, are they? They are providing a model, they are providing the files, that is it, they are not providing a service. You are part of the problem if you think that by downloading a file someone has made means they are providing a service to you. They are effectively providing an item, not a service.
Well there are only really two types of issues, one is issues with the printer itself, the other is issues with how the printer is used. It isn’t the model creators responsibility to teach people how to use their printer and bambu have provided guides on how to use it, so the only person at fault is the user for not learning how to use it.
Cool, so you had no answer to this because I’m right.
I hope you’re giving the same answer to the one that keep complaining on your makerworld mdels.
Actually, a lot more problems occur when you use enclosures for PETG or PLA. Plenty of people got rid of their problems by just opening the door and the top.
Also the PLA vs PETG had no place in this discussion, it’s petg vs petg with the same settings on different Bambu machines, not the same settings on PETG as PLA (obviously).
It should be like that. Yet, every single day on Bambu’s subreddit, there are plenty of people having this very issue. Some people do provide quite some insights. Machines aren’t the same, default profiles aren’t the same.
There is at least one that I identified, and not only myself. AUX fan on the default settings for PLA is way too high on something like A1 series. Also the A1 has it’s own set of problems right now (retraction, nozzle touching the infill on multiple objects etc), and you have to manually adjust things (or just use Orca).
This is nuances but whatever you want to call it, whatever they provide (technically it’s a service), there is a rating attached to their model and profile in the end, which is attached to their name.
But they are effectively not providing any item, in the common sense. It’s a digital good, an intangible item, that they serve it automatically in the form of download (sometimes with a profile) to anyone that visits that page, using the help of Makerworld’s platform (or other). You don’t have to model it for anyone that visits the platform and clicks download, like a buy button. You did it once and now it’s an automatic service that does that, although free. Same as Spotify. On makerworld it’s free but there are other platforms where you can get paid for this service.
It doesn’t matter for this discussion. Whatever it is and you want to call it, the point is people use the rating system to express their admiration or complaint. Same as people that go on Amazon and complain about X brand of filament being bad, or blame Amazon (since it’s their website), but rarely people might think it’s the user fault. "If I think that by downloading… ", no, it doesn’t matter what I think. It’s what I see people doing it, regardless of what I think. Most of those people don’t even visit this forum, even less this thread, so it’s pointless to argue about these points. They will still do it while the ones frustrated still think it’s my fault, for voicing whatever sheep are doing. Those people don’t even think there is a person behind who made a real effort to create stuff, because how easy it is to just navigate and print. This needs a change on either Makerworld’s part, or a better disclaimer from the makers (in case people read these).
Perfect point to end, and I also agree. Now, you have to explain that to everyone giving you a negative rating for whatever “print won’t stick” reason.