The DANGER of boosts. What to avoid

Sheesh. Must be nice! Daily/Weekly/Monthly! I’m on the four month schedule!

Dang overachievers!

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I redeem once a week aswell.
Most weeks I get a ‘not enough points message’ though.

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There is a hard upper limit per week you can redeem from points into gift cards.

Although last week it turned out to be softer than normal.

This is a joke

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Open a support ticket and ask for a manual review

ive just started out in 3d printing. im trying to be and become a quality creator. ive been boosted by a number of people i dont know as i dont know anyone in 3d printing. reading the official posting on boosting, it seems they only wanted to promote makers who make big complicated models, and not simple or popular quicker creation designs. thats just what their statement reads.

I however do not agree with this. the examples they give are largely uninteresting to me. i have not received boost tokens this week and assume that they withheld them as they talk about doing to people who boost simple models and not big complicated ones.

personally i dont want to boost models that have uber popular creators who get 1000 boosts per model. I would rather boost newer creators who actually could use them more and could also use the encouragement. but it seems bambu labs gets to decide what i like and dont like. Im grateful for the boost system, dont get me wrong but i think its dumb of them to try force us to make the choice they want us to make. why dont they just choose the “big fancy model of the week” list and make a post where people can vote on them and win something like a contest? Then also just let us boost what models we want to boost.

That is not at all what the point of the boost system was for. Originally it was to balance the disparity between simple but popular models that would get tons of download and prints versus complex models that naturally get fewer prints because of their complexity. They created the boost system to provide a means for the models to be awarded more fairly and encourage more complex and interesting models be uploaded to the site. Complex models take much more time and effort to create than a simple widget. The simple model gets it points mostly through downloads and prints and a few boosts, whereas the complex model gets most of its points through boost, along with some points from downloads and prints. Some models hit it out of the park and garner points both ways.

Bambu wants their site to be filled with interesting, amazing and complex models. Models such as the card shuffler or marble run. It helps drive traffic to their site which in turn sells more printers and filament. So they came up with a way to reward these models more.

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Then also just let us boost what models we want to boost.

I’ve seen this sentiment a few times now. I don’t understand. Why can’t a person boost any model they want? I don’t see any restrictions on how you choose to allocate the boosts that maker world provides, unless they are abused for personal gain. I’m curious what circumstances have you hit where you had a boost, but couldn’t boost a particular model you wanted (short of the limits that have always been there in terms of limited boosts per model)?

This is how I see it: print what you want, boost what you want, rate how you want.

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well in their readme on boosts they clearly say if you are boosting in a way they dont agree with they will reduce your chances to get boost tokens or block you from getting any at all. Personally im ok with their idea on boosting the big complex models, i can get the idea that they do more work for generally less incentive. but why try force us to boost those. why cant they create a way to support that on their own? Like say have the bambu team pick 20 models and let ppl vote on the group to then have the winners get prize packs according to their rank in the voting.

I didnt get boost tokens this week i printed stuff all weekend. personally i dont like those big complex models. most are of no function or value. its just a complex expensive and time consuming piece of junk that sits on your shelf… i dont value that. i also find when i look that many of these ppl have 500-1000 boosts. to me they do not need my boost. they can buy a new printer off of one upload. so far ive spent like 4 grand on a machine and piles of filament and ive made next to nothing. I think i can get one spool of pla so far. id rather boost up and coming makers who need the boosting more and who can grow into many more people making better and better files. but because im also helping retention and growth of the platform in general i get pushed aside.

thats my issue with it. if there was no way to get the bonuses and boosts, i would not even bother with makerworld. Id just make my own files and sell them on my own site and on etsy myself. why waste the time and risk your files all being stolen where others can just rip off your stl files on a silver platter?

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its not that i couldnt boost. its that i did everything to qualify for 2-3 tokens this past week. and every week since christmas. but i boost newer makers. i try find models that show promise or have some marketable interest capability. but i boost one maker or two every week and give them a couple. but this week as said above i printed files off all weekend but received no boosts. reading their rules i basically am being pushed to the back of the line so to speak because im not doing the boosting as they want to see it done. im just tired of seeing every opportunity handed to a select elite on a silver platter everywhere i look. the youtube stars all get 7 grand in free printers and im supposed to hand my boosts over to them too basically. … NO. i wont.

Well, thats a thing. I love what you do, and that you care about small makers but when i was a new maker i had people boost me with 2, even once with 4 boosts. I was to the moon and back so happy, until i tried to get my first giftcard and i received a penalty. Bambulab team deducted point and i was unable to receive new point for a month because i received boosts from someone who had not printed my models. Even worst, it turned out to be someone who was in the same youtube community i was in, and he had given me a boost a month before, so the counter was on 5 boosts from that person.

It was very friendly he did that, but for me it meant i had to spend a month in a bambu prisson without seeing a judge.

I understand where you are coming from. I printed the famed Card Shuffler this weekend and felt weird about giving it a boost because it has garnered so many already. I’d rather give it to someone trying to get some traction in Makerworld. I have a coworker that has a few models out there. I would boost him regularly but I know it is not the intent of the program. He would get penalized and I would not get more boosts. But I understand that Makerwold is running a business and that card shuffler sells a ton of filament, hardware kits, and machine usage.

18 months ago I never designed anything in my life. I started small to try to get a card or two and found success in 1 of my models. Once I earned some cards, I was hooked and kept designing things, often in coordination with the current contest which helped increase visibility. I used social media where allowable to promote my models. I worked to increase my modeling skills and make something better than the last time. I found success and am probably now one of those designers you wouldn’t want to boost–and that is fine and understandable. I love seeing others grow and experience the journey the way I did and love to support those starting out. But you just have to understand the rules. So if you find a new designer you like, like and print their model, take a nice photo, post a great review. This will help give them stand out from the crowd and get momentum.

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thank you for the encouragement. i do try to give constructive full feedback on every print i do. The rules however are very vague. Ive read comments about all kinds of “triggers” for being put in bambu jail over it. none of which are documented on the official rules page. i have considered the rules as an idealistic picture of intent with a massive grey area, and no direct specifics a person can actually follow. Bambu make the program and the rules. it seems like they are trying to legislate our interests in their sites provisions.

anyway. ive read over and over about how just working on models and improving your skills and uploading consistently will get a creator to some success. im doing my best.

I assume this was the model by @Josh-3D, it is a great design, complex and this is now the sort of model BL wish people to Boost.

BL have changed their tune, originally the Boost system was promoted to reward the smaller designers. I am annoyed they are the switch.

Boosting anything @Josh-3D does is fine as he is great and detail oriented, nothing to hate at everything to love.

But it should be the choice of the person Boosting and not the direction of BL who seem to change their mind without rhyme or reason.

I hadn’t uploaded a thing to MW until around Feb 2024 or design anything 3D before then, in the 2024 summary we all got, I was in the top 1% of designers.

I would be the last to consider myself worthy of that or any of the other success I gained.

I did things I wanted to make and did not and do not care if others download my work. I have over 750 models and some have never been printed or downloaded. How cool is that!

Apologies for not seeing this reply before.

You hit the nail on head, let us choose who to give them to. If I find something useful I ring, I will Boost that, I don’t care if it is simple or fast to print, it solved a problem, it should be rewarded.

If I find a complex print I think is great, I may reward with a Boost as I congratulate the effort, even if I don’t print it.

Don’t give me something and then tell me who to give it to. If BL want me to give it to ‘x’, why bother asking e, they should just give it to x themselves.

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I hope the quality of the work itself deserves the continued boost. I certainly have traction as a designer, but I also put a lot of work into my models and I do strive to do work that is, well, worthy of people’s time and filament.

This though. I think one should give boost to who they want. I think it’s fine for Bambu to say hey, put a focus on complex designs because we should encourage that, but at the end of the day it should be the user’s choice.

I still give my boost to whoever I want :stuck_out_tongue:

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It certainly does deserve continued boosts. I boosted it, and plan on printing a few more once I order some kits and will boost more. It’s only “weird” because it’s like throwing my dollar on a big pile of dollars. I can see how people may feel about boosting some of my more successful models that already have a lot of boosts.

I reread this just now, your comment makes so much sense. I agreed with it before but thinking of it again. Bambu labs should reward people who do what they like. They do have an account. it would be great to see you get a badge on your account for being boosted by makerworld itself. Maybe that boost should be 10 boosts or more. It would be also great to see a tab somewhere to see all the models they boosted so it helps us see what their “Likes” are.

As far as myself. There are lots of really complex cool models which like you i think deserve a boost just because of the Wow factor, but most of them i would not print, i do not need, and serve no real world purpose to almost anyone other than a time consuming complex hobby build. Like you I would rather see more useful prints out there that solve real world problems with 3d printing. That is why I suspect most of us actually bought a printer in the first place. I have a hard time believing anyone out there is buying a printer to print off complex plastic dongles that serve little to no purpose other than to be a static toy. There is an Isle full of that stuff for much less than we can print it for at the dollar store already. People will be more drawn to the hobby/sport/tool more if it actually does things for them like fix or replace broken parts or creates new options for things we already have in the marketplace. That pursuit will draw more and more households to entering this space. I fully believe the H series “personal manufacturing station” or whatever it was mantra is the future. I do not agree that overly complex plastic toys are the best way there.

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