The wait ends on March 25! šŸš€

Bah its not true idex. Not sure how good its going to be. This type of setup has no ability to do dual simultaneous prints.

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Creality sells printers with additional laser modules for years.
And they will most likely bring out a laser module on their new K2 after the H2D comes up with a laser module.

I’m not a Creality fan, but their K2 price will be half the H2D price on sale. And it seems to have pretty good reviews so far.

Might be possible Elegoo catches up too with an aditional laser module on their (pretty good) X1C clone. With a price lower of that of a P1S.

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Dont sleep on qidi. Theyre due for a new max

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I am seeing not-so-positive feedback trying to print TPU with K2. Seems like the filament path is not sufficiently constrained, and soft (<95A) filament can jam too easily.
One of the reason I didn’t pull the lever on it - I need to print lots of TPU stuff.
@StreetSports have you tried printing soft TPU with your K2?

I had issues when trying to run at normal slow tpu speeds. Found out later, it was the tpu i was using. I also found that the temp sensor on the nozzle was loose. Causing the nozzle to get too hot. This is why im printing it at pla speeds here. If a person isnt willing or able to troubleshoot at all, the k2 may not be the best choice. Im sure it wasnt easy making the combo for $1,500 and you get what you pay for. I imagine this sums up most complainers/reviewers

I have not tried 85a. I dont like crocs

I fixed the issue of the wiper getting smashed by sliding a piece of ptfe tube under it. Works even better now that its stiff.

I understand that not everybody wants to mess with it. Im that weirdo that spends 2 weeks and $125 to print a single pei benchy on a $800 printer lol…but, if a printer company would listen to me, they could make the perfect printer. Its so frustrating watching them ALL slightly drop the ball every time or make something out of reach for the 99%

I’m not expecting to really trust most if any of those initial reviews either way lol but i’ll check em to get the facts on the printer itself

They surely will be biased indeed. Until the real user reviews will appear in a few weeks/months…

But the P1S and X1c also had it’s flaws on release (and still have).

I agree, I have a very large laser (queen size bed size) The say don’t burn or engrave on anything that isn’t meant for it. The chemicals from the plastics burned or laser cut throw off a mean and toxic smell without extrusion to the outside and will eat the metal components inside (let the rusting begin). I imagine this is going to be a major headache or dangerous to non-experienced users. I can see house fires ppl will have when they leave it cutting or lasering to go get a bottle of water or whatever. I am all for a larger 3d print area but no thanks on the add ons! Noper.

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I think I am going to wait at least 3 months. I feel like that should be enough time for Most of the initial issues to be discovered and (hopefully) fixed. Maybe i will wait longer. We will have to wait and see i guess.

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I am Also dissapointed about the serval facts (if they are true).

In terms of size i (and alot of other people) where hoping for a really larger Printer at least in one dimension, so hit the 4xxmm at least at Z-axis, which would have been the cheapest way to be really large.

Also the dual-nozzle with one motor system is rather disappointing,
I am using a P1S and A1-Mini both with AMS, but the AMS is just a comfort feature to not having to spool-in/out filament and not really using the Multimaterial print because of the huge ammount of waste.

At this setup this does not save waste alot waste on <2 Materials (it can Support 25 at one print !), nor its speeding up the multimaterial process.

If they would have used at least a dual-motor setup system for example it would have been possible to heavily optimize the printspeed, by changing two filaments the same time, which would speed up the print the printspeed of multimaterial setups significant, but still not be optimal.

Regarding printspeeds some compliants about the ā€œonlyā€ 20k acc, mostly its the material which is holding print speeds back, its not the print mechanics anymore, so thats not a real bummer.

Regarding the Laser, altough i have access to a normal lasercutter, i would be one of the users who probably would use them also, because i have limited space and do have more small parts to cut, but for sure its not the case for everyone.

As the printer has alot of cameras i think they will also come up with their own sheets of material with a QR Code on it so the machine can automatically set up the parameters for optimal cutting.

So as all this specs are no ā€œbreakingā€ new stuff in the industry they would probably really need to go for a reasonable price to be a seller this time.

With the 1st 1.5 gen printers the ā€œnewā€ feature was the simple workflow especially with multi material print, now a couple years later the other companies also can offer this (more or less).

For this device i don`t see a ā€œkiller featureā€ yet.

Kri.

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I’m looking forward to your YouTuber reviews. :star_struck:

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I repeat, nothing really innovative, all the features already seen in other printers, maybe done better but nothing new! A 5-axis 3D printer will have been a real innovation!

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I better take the day off so I can marathon these YouTube reviews or sponsored plugs or whatever :smiley:

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This is a very interesting printer and from what I’ve seen the print quality seems pretty good.

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Yes, this is what I expect from Bambulab!

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Does anybody know of any other consumer printer that uses all servo motors? Im trying to find the last puzzle piece thats never been done before and wasnt possible with existing tech. The hidden apple watch.

Legit question. I know my 3d printer tech, but im not sure any printer has come with all servo motors. I doubt it has all servo motors. Just trying to figure this thing out.

Or maybe this is the first prosumer printer packed with noob protections? 17 runout sensors n auto tune arent something prosumers are wanting. They do their own tuning and dont use filament from only 1 brand

Dumb question but if the auto tuning is good, why wouldn’t a professional use it? I’m just a hobbyist but I definitely get what I would consider professional results by using all the auto calibrations every print. The only times I’ve gotten bad results was either due to humidity, using Ludicrous speed to rush a print along, or when I made a dumb error like forgetting a brim or something (which are all my fault so I can’t blame the printer at all). Yeah it adds like 3-5 minutes to a print but I think that’s worth it for the quality improvement

Im not going to pretend to know if this new printer will be consistant on the tuning…But I can tell you that printers of the past that have auto tuning, will give different results every time. Camera dirty? Or dusted with laser dust? I would rather take the time to perfect the tune. Auto tune is probably great for new people that dont have orca and businesses that have employees that are new to printing.

I personally never use it anymore. I definitely dont use the preset .02 pa for everything.

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My new take on pricing:

Bambu Lab H2D With AMS 2 Pro

Baseline - Start from X1E (a little problematic because there is a premium added for support, but I’ll start here because there will be a premium for the laser development added to this line on this printer and it already includes the heater chamber)

Subtotal - $2499

Add for Larger Size:

  • $140 (based on A1 and A1 Mini)

Subtotal - $2,640

Add for toolhead:

  • $35.99 for an additional Hot-end
  • $20 secondary extruder path
  • $25 upper actuator
  • $25 lower actuator
  • $15 upper gearing
  • $15 lower gearing
  • $25 New camera for nozzles
  • $25 New camera for Toolhead

Subtotal - $2,800

Add for general improvements:

  • $20 Material CodeSync camera/sensor
  • $30 Comprehensive filament monitoring system (15 sensors on one filament path)
  • $30 Vision encoder for 50μm ultra-fine motion accuracy
  • $15 DynaSense Extruder (more expensive extruder stepper/servo)
  • $10 Air purification system with HEPA filter
  • $25 Neural Processing Unit spec’ed in to the board
  • $20 Flame Detection (may only be in the Laser versions)
  • $60 higher performing Steppers/Servos for the 1000 mm/s spec

Subtotal - $3,010

Add for Bambu Lab AMS 2 Pro

  • $70 for AMS Drying
  • $10 for improved motors (brushless)

Total - $3,090

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Brushless sensored motors would be awesome. Probably cheaper than legit servos too. Nice breakdown.

Edit, didnt notice the ams motors were brushless. Good eye

Edit Edit. One thing ill point out is that the heated chamber and good filtration may add $1,000 by themselves. Just thinking of x1c vs x1e… Probably why you started at the x1e price point. Sorry, getting tired

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