Anyone have any two colour prints using both hotends?
Bonjour, Je suis propriétaire d’une X1C et d’une P2s et franchement pas beaucoup de différences. Je suis le débat pour voire les avis de la X2c, mais je ne suis pas convaincu que se soit une véritable innovation, mêmes dimensions même plateau. Je suppose que l’on va nous vendre de L ‘ IA soit disant meilleurs qu’avant…..
The specifications of the X2D are public, if you don’t need the improvements over the P2S then the X2D is not for you. Which is good for your wallet and the environment.
Some people want that second nozzle, the X2D is ment for them.
And that’s awesome, it sounds like YOU are the type of user this was built for. However I don’t think they’re making that clear in marketing. For those of us that don’t run a print farm, and only dabble in engineering prints occasionally, my $900 is probably better spent elsewhere. I *wish* Bambu had a true tool changer in the sub-$1k category, and maybe on day they will, but by that time the market will have several players, with Snapmaker having had a huge lead on them in development, maturity, and user adoption.
The second nozzle seem to me to be made very clear in the marketing, but I guess we are all different. The guy I had replied to apparently hadn’t seen anything else than the improved AI.
Anyhow, I would also like a tool changer, a INDX style in particular. But that doesn’t challenge the existence of the X2D.
I feel like Bambu literally made the X2D for me. It’s exactly what I wanted.
Can you make an engineering grade printer that has a 2nd nozzle for support material, has a heated chamber, can print most common engineering filaments, can utilize my large collection of existing 256mm build plates, has upgraded kinematics, and fits it the same footprint as my X1C. Oh, could you also make it cheap enough so that when I sell my X1C combo for 650 dollars it will be a no-cost upgrade? Thanks!
Same here! Been waiting for this exact type of machine from BL for a very long time. I printed a few days.., very impressed with everything, then ordered 3 more combos which is not far off the price for a single H2C. Just an insane value there.
Very happy!
I suppose the noise is the same as the P2S, the construction being similar, but if anyone have both and could give an opinion on that it would be neat.
I’m thinking in particular of the knocking sound the Z-hops do and that doesn’t reduce when lowering print speed (you end up with just the z knock if speed is low enough).
Don’t have one to compare.., but I can tell you it seems just as quiet, if not quieter than H2Cs & H2Ds. I’m always hearing fan noise because of high temp prints.., but the steppers are very quiet for sure.
it definitely is quieter than the P2S - them bolting the heater and heater fan, aux extruder, air filter and attaching the glass to the sides make the side panels and back panel less like drum skins. My H2D is quieter though.
Bambu Lab is to 3D printing what Apple is to smartphones. Then, there’s everyone else. With one key difference: unlike Apple, BBL’s business model is based on high-volume sales of high-quality machines.
There are two main categories of makers: those who do multi-color printing and those who do multi-material printing.
Same here, I only do functional prints, no multi-color. I only use one main spool of engineering-grade filament.
I used to have a Tenlog IDEX that allowed me to do duplication printing and use dedicated support filament. Since its release, I’ve been using an A1; the H2D is too expensive and wouldn’t really be useful for me.I sold my AMS lite since it wasn’t really useful, and replaced it with a filament dryer; the direct drive is able to pull the filament through a PTFE tube.
This new XD2 combines the advantages of dual nozzles, CoreXY motion, and a heated enclosure. I’m still waiting for review and comparison videos, but for now, it’s the one that interests me the most.
You think? From what I have seen of past Bambu printers, a fair amount of modding is still possible. I’ve never seen an Apple modded anything.
It feels to me that BL is trying to be apple-like. Maybe not quite the same, but the intention is clear.
There are a few others that are a bit farther away from that, but would like to be closer.
And then there are the companies like Android - Mostly open and the kind of equipment people who like to mess around with stuff enjoy.
I like Bambu Lab printers because they tend to be solid, and have resigned myself to using their ecosystem. It’s somewhat rigid, but It works for me.
I like Prusa because of the practical engineering. I believe connect is the best farm management system out there, and that makes sense, as I believe they operate the largest print-farm in the world at the moment.
I like Snapmaker (for now) because of the open nature of their U1. Not sure about their previous products, but the custom firmware builds upon the released firmware to make it so much better.
All approaches can exist.
It’s perfect for that type of printing. Fom, i do alot of multi color prints so it’s not something I’m interested in
It’s an analogy for their product philosophy: closed ecosystems that are incompatible with most other brands—much like iOS vs. Android, macOS vs. Windows, or MacBooks vs. PCs. It’s all about that sleek design and their proprietary software over open-source alternatives.
Love my new printers. Sold my Prusa. I did have a brief interaction with support that was terrible though
Just wanted to give an update. I’ve been running 10 X2D’s for well over 1/2 a year now and it has been a fantastic machine.
2nd nozzle is very good. Can’t tell a difference tbh. And besides a few initial gremlins on getting them setup / (2 didn’t want to connect to wifi) they have all been rock solid and do a great job.
I still believe these are one of the best values in 3d printing if you need something capable of high temp filaments which is the only thing I do on the hard plastic side. So they have never ran PLA / PETG etc.
Here’s one of the assembly rooms where the X2D’s live:
I really enjoyed reading this thread, and your final image confirmed for me that the X2D isn’t a printer for everyone. There are several threads discussing issues and failures, and I believe most of the people reporting these problems know what they’re talking about.
Your image makes me realize that on the other side, there are people who ‘eat’ PLA for breakfast—what I consider a major issue doesn’t even register on their radar. A filament clog is a disaster to me, but to them, it’s just a minor hiccup during work, just part of the production process. The jokes about the ‘Game Changer’ really made me chuckle (you gotta laugh every now and then 
), and I have to say that in that image, the real Game Changer is the little A1 mini. Thanks to its low price, virtually zero technical barrier, and undeniable value for money, it brought so many people into 3D printing—including me—boosting the perception of it as an ‘appliance’ and in turn stimulating competition.
At the same time, though—at least for people with my level of experience—it convinced us that 3D printing is just pushing a button… which couldn’t be further from the truth. So if I decide to buy the X2D (and I think the same applies to the P2S), I have to expect to put in more effort than with my A1 mini, but your experience gives me hope!
The mini’s I have are only for TPU. They are TPU monsters.. They are so easy to use for that and for my needs. They have never ran a single gram of hard plastics.
As far as the X2D or just problems in general., may be an unpopular opinion, but many problems people have are self inflicted.
I have over 40 machines, mostly running 24/7. Would you find it crazy that I have never had a nozzle clog on any of them? I would not consider it part of the production process. If I clogged a nozzle I would definitely be blaming myself and figuring out what I did wrong.
Should a machine be absolute perfection just throwing a model you downloaded somewhere and use some generic settings and hope for the best? I don’t believe so. I can’t remember the last time I used a default / generic setup and hit print. But that is what a whole bunch of people do and expect it to work awesome regardless of whatever you are trying to print.
I personally think the X2D is the best value for the $$$ in all of 3d printing if you are using it for high temp filments. I’ll probably have 10 more or so by the middle of next year.