This happens ALL THE TIME. There is no way to stop this from happening, as long as the platform has rewards. Just like real life, people will screw over everyone and their mom for a dollar.
We all know that.
That doesnât mean we shouldnât try and stop the bad people rather than rolling over and assuming we donât deserve better.
What got me most was the bragging nature of this individual. He admitted his theft, my model being the stolen item and that he used it and not anything else to create his version.
When people noticed more, he edited his comment to remove the admission, when MW finally looked into it, they believed his entirely different story and either couldnât or chose not to see the entry before the edit.
Half a dozen people reported him for what he did and then pretended he couldnât understand English when he responded and that is why he told an ENTIRELY different take on his admitted theft.
I believe part of the reason so many on this post and others are aggrieved is half about MW not upholding their end of the equation.
5 Likes
I think you are spot on thereâŚ
Bambu tries too hard while failing to make sense to users and creators alike.
Quiet often is seems Bambu rushes to provide what they think is a solution without even considering how many related requests they had for a problem.
Resulting in their solution being rather far from what users and creators expected.
Bambu compared to Autodesk
I tried to contact someone meaningful at Bambu/Makerworld in order to get some explanation on their approach.
Pointed to some of our long going topics that are so really void of feedback from Bambu.
Also some topics they just marked as solved while the solution they provide does not help, never did.
Of course I included our concerns in regards to the handling of contests, uploads, rules and all that.
Not really sure what I expected to get back but I guess their reply wasnât it.
âThank you for your feedback we will look into the concerns you raised.â
Yes, they phrased it a bit longer but thatâs it, no explanations, no comment, no nothing.
Basically the same happened years ago at the Autodesk run Instructables sites, which is why I find the developments here so concerning.
First they made the user forum useless by removing vital categories, including those for quality control and feedback purposes.
Making it almost impossible to get into contact with anyone from their support teams.
Back then we were about 10 to 15 users active almost every day that addressed the concerns of users, helped them to find solutions for their projects and all that.
Basically stepping in after a day or two if no other users provided help.
In return for our years of service we got some presents once a tear or if not a slightly better one the year after.
You know, t-shirts, promotional items, sometimes little toolsâŚ
Then totally out of the blue the rules for their contests were changed - in order to improve they said and to keep copycats and things that wonât fit out of contests.
Problem with that was that it alienated a lot of the newbies.
They kept getting warnings stating their entry canât be accepted because they started on the project before the contest started.
Or that their formatting does not meet specifications - specifications that were very hard to find on the outdated support pages.
But in return it provided a huge boost for the busiest creators they had - the ones who always landed in the top places of contests and won the biggest prices.
We fought for a while but once the forum got butchered even more and our enhanced text editor was removed so posts would be more uniform it was enough.
Within a week me and most of the other supporting users stopped.
Just a few months later we no longer saw a benefit or need to upload our creative work and basically left the site for good.
It wasnât so much the enforced changes that made us leave, it was they how and the results.
Imagine you worked for weeks to create some unique piece of furniture.
And for obvious reasons this complex work requires a matching documentation if you want any hope some other (half skilled) person can make use of it.
But imagine the frustration when your creativity literally ends with the editorâŚ
We never had issues here, if there was a need for a pic to explain vital steps you embedded it in the text at the right position.
Now you only could upload images to fill the top of a step and had to provide text overlays and such to reference where any text might relate to them - a total mess.
Something that could be done in one page/step required 4 or 5 additional steps just so you were able to deal with those pics.
The forum was fully butchered when all sorting options were removed.
No chance any more to find new replies or to just see topics based on the last reply, making it impossible to help users unless you make it a 24/7 fulltime job.
Bambu is showing the same tendencies here.
Too much streamlining, too many unwanted or unrequired changes while changes the users requested for so long are being ignored.
Same for their approach on contests and uploads - it not done 100% to their liking youâre out.
It alienates the new people, makes things too confusing and raises more questions than what it provides answers and solutions.
The funny thing is that we already know what we need, want and what is required to improve but we wonât act on what we knowâŚ
1 Like
â(Tongue-in-cheek) Whoever invented the wheel must have been rolling in his grave billions of times by nowâŚâ
2 Likes
just another idiot that wants to steal stuff. at least i pay for my stuff and abide by the license.
2 Likes
Thank you MZip (and so many more) for all your comments. I see both yours and debonerâs points. I find value that we all want the same thing, protecting our creations! Donât give up on the creators for creators hosting site idea. Even Elon Musk is moving X to a verified user accounts only (possibly a paid membership platform if what heâs got planned works). Heâs dealing with similar problems and has a poop-ton of money. These ideas you, Malc and so many others have put forward are how great companies get their roots! It wonât happen over night, but it will happen. I feel MW is growing faster than they can keep up and as Bambu printers popularity grows, MW grows. Remember in the beginning when Bambu could hardly give ANY really customer support and what little they gave was impossible to understand (translation wise). Itâs gotten a ton better (better, not perfect).
Trust the process, keep MW in the loop and keep pushing them for results. Bambu wonât be able (or want) to keep MW on their BBS home page if they crash and burn as a corrupt site. Just bad for business.
And to MalcTheOracle, Iâm truly sorry to hear about your design(s) getting ripped off. I also had my first design ripped off and sold on eBay, they took it down immediately but it still hurt to have it stolen. WE ALL HEAR YOUR PAIN AND FRUSTRATION! WE. SUPPORT. YOU.
2 Likes
The Thangs website seems to be trying to be very âdesigner forwardâ in terms of protecting designers from theft, and encourage folks to use it for commercial licenses and other stuff. Sadly it doesnât seem to have nearly the traffic that Makerworld does, though, but hey, at least itâs one more place to post models to share. If Makerworld would just add a paid model tier like Cults3D, Iâd probably only post here.
Well for me is the âSection 4 - Limitations of warranty and exclusions of liabilityâ in Cluts3D a little too poorly described. There could be a few more disclaimers in there, but certainly better than nothing 
What makerworld do include in limitations of warranty and exclusions of liability?
That seems intentional rather than a typo.
3 Likes
My motherâs tongue is not English Cults cluts⌠however. But they have a âSection 4â and I always look for that firstâŚ
Just strolling over topics and had a good laugh over this so that I have to take screenshot and save here
My impression was the typo for ladyparts, you know, the key u and i on the keyboard are next to each other. Imagine if that site had 3D graphics for clits as wellâŚ
Personally, I donât like the way MW operate so that I donât share my stuffs here, but elsewhere instead. I usually share something I make that helps my daily life a bit better with source file fusion360 along. I donât have problem like you guys do. I do feel your pain though.
I was reading the maker online thread, so I checked out maker online only to find my model that I just uploaded on Makerworld last, has been uploaded on maker online today.
Mine
The thief
Even using my photo, only mirroredâŚ
Weird, Makeronline rips off MakerWorld down to the last details and is it a surprise it gives thieves the implicit permission to steal anything?
Entirely unrelated to the theft and only to the greatness that is Oreo. I pushed this up today another in an increasing Orea collectionâanother tomorrow.
I reported the thief and commented on the model.
2 Likes
Itâs not fair that in America, you get to buy so many varieties of things that in the U.K. we cannot hope to get.
We only have around 5 variants of Oreos, and two in the ice cream category.
The same with M&Mâs.
I had hoped to eat a bag of M&M Caramel Cold Brew before I died, it looks like I will be dead long before it arrives here as it will not be here before the end of the year.
I have a lady friend in Denmark that LOVES M&Mâs. I video our candy isle at Walmart and send her. Iâve bought several different M&Mâs and shipped her(shipping is crazy high!). Her son wants to try nacho cheese Doritos, so thatâs in the next shipment 
We had some mint m&mâs that were awesome! Theyâve been discontinuedâŚ
I can send some cold brew if you want, Iâve never tried them.
wow! I had to go and quick check mine posted way back to see the similarities.
The weirdest part is that if i resize mine to yours, its the same, apart for fillets applied on the corners on your model. Even the details overlaps perfectly⌠what about that? 
I assume you mean that we both used the same Oreo logo that is used on the real cookies, it would be very difficult for them to be anything other than similar.
I used the same dimensions I use for all of my coasters: 100x2mm. As you noted, I curved the outer edges to match the actual cookie.
I also have four different crème coasters in thicknesses from 1mm to 4mm that yours doesnât have.
I also created a custom tray is very different as I extended the Oreo logo design to make the tray itself.
Are you suggesting I copied your design?
1 Like
I compared the STLs for the curve puzzle in Bambu Studio.
It is kind of strange that he copied your design, then âtweakedâ it to make it so inferior to your design. @MalcTheOracle design looks professional and well thought out, and his looks like a cheap knockoff.
Not at all mate. The vector/file is available for anyone that wants to create one. It just made me look because itâs not something that most people are willing to make because it has to be hand drawn to match the oreo style.
Of course, one must always be careful because you, more than anyone here, know that people steal all the time.
Have a great one 
1 Like
Just checking.
Sometimes people believe they âownâ the rights to a commercial logo that none of us have any rights to and we all sit on the edge of legality.
The fact we donât charge is our saving grace in most cases.
Stolen models
I popped my cherry on commercial thefts the other day. I found two of my successful models on Etsy. I now need to deal with that and search for others.
1 Like