Yeah, but they won’t be getting any more and they won’t be getting my friends’. There are other places to buy filament, as much as the RFID system is convenient.
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So, what you’re essentially saying is that if a scenario is less likely, we can just skip security measures? Would you choose a simple PIN for your bank account just because you personally are less likely to be targeted?
There are plenty of threat actors out there, all with different motives—some just want to cause chaos, while others have more specific objectives. You’d still want to stop even the casual script kiddie who happens to stumble into your network, right?
As I mentioned, their upcoming solution might not be great, and their current one certainly isn’t. What I’ve been trying to highlight is the reasoning behind doing something instead of nothing. Sure, you can speculate all you want, but at the end of the day, it’s still just speculation. I’m not saying there shouldn’t be debate about these changes, but right now, a lot of the arguments sound more like conspiracy theories than actual evidence.
Your argument might somewhat work if they actually did implement better security measures with this change - alas, they didn’t, on the contrary.
Which is why I find it baffling why you’re so adamant at defending their moves - you are not gaining anything from this, even losing a bit, while a different user base will be actually ‘hurt’ by this decision, so - what’s in it for you?! Do you frequently go to Kickstarter projects to write in the comments that you do not support whatever they’re trying to crowdfund? Are you one of those people who, when they see petitioners, go to them and explicitly tell them that they do not support their cause? Do you go to churches/mosques/synagogues to tell the people there that you do not believe in their god?
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I’m not defending their approach, just explaining why they’re doing something. I never said what they’re introducing in this beta is good—there’s definitely plenty of room for improvement.
Slightly off-topic, but just to clarify: you can’t comment on Kickstarter projects unless you’ve backed them. As a backer, I have every right to voice my thoughts on their approach, so your comparison doesn’t quite hold.
Bringing religion into this discussion feels unnecessary and unconstructive. If they were on a public platform like this forum, I would respectfully state that I don’t share their beliefs—nothing more, nothing less.
Lastly, to make this absolutely clear: explaining why certain individuals or groups act in a particular way doesn’t imply support for their actions. By your logic, all experts who study terrorism would automatically be supporters of terrorism, which is obviously not the case.
Contradict you your nick name, Satan does believe in God. He just refuses to follow God and just be rebellious prodigy.
How comes one go against something that does not exist?
Anyhow, go print something.
Aww, it’s adorable how you’re still trying to argue about something you clearly don’t understand. 
That said, explaining why something is done doesn’t mean supporting that it’s done. I get that some of you struggle with this concept, but hey, facts are facts.
Anyway, my printer’s tied up right now, so you’ll just have to go print your arguments instead! 
Omg…Do you not see the irony?
“As a backer, I have every right to voice my thoughts on their approach”
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Have you noticed all the accounts on this forum that don’t even own a Bambu Lab printer, yet still feel the need to speak up about something that won’t even affect them?
Just last night, we had a few ghost accounts pop up, seemingly just to stir the pot.
I have never said that users who are directly affected by this change should stay silent. All I’ve ever asked is for people to stick to the facts and try to understand why it’s happening. I’ve never said it’s a good thing they’ve done. Why is it so difficult for you to understand that part?
Theyre mad because they wanted to buy one and this changed their minds. You know that though. Nobody on this whole forum is stirring the pot more than you atm. Get some sleep
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Yes and 2FA is supposed to mitigate the risk of a compromised device by needing a second device to also be compromised. Mitigation which Bambu renders worthless with their everlasting user/password/2FA bypassing cookies.
You are clueless for not understanding that adding 2FA to Makerworld was like adding lipstick to a pig. This proposed authorisation scheme for the printers is looking like more of the same.
Way to take the argument literally - I wanted to also use a hypothetical example of running to a playground and telling kids that Santa isn’t real, but you’d probably twist that as if I was accusing you of child abuse.
The main question is - why are you even engaging in an argument about an issue that doesn’t concern you? Nobody is attacking you, nobody wants to fight you, nobody wants to take anything away from you, why are you so insistant to tell people with legit concerns about ownership rights (about their current or future purchases) that they should’ve known better because BL is s Chinese company? I bought my printers from an European company, registered in Germany, and I will hold them to same standards as the rest, regardless of where are they making their printers.
You won’t, we get it, enjoy being in line with BL leadership, hope you at least get something out of it.
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You can return to your comfortable place of ignorance if you wish.
However, explaining why something is happening does not equate to supporting it or claiming that it’s a good change—that distinction is something you need to understand.
Let’s not forget that everyone knew from the start they were buying a closed-source printer, with all that entails. Refusing to understand why something is being done—even if it’s being handled poorly—is nothing short of idiocy.
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So, are you suggesting that we should tolerate misinformation and outright conspiracy theories simply because I’m not directly affected by the change? Does that mean people don’t have the right to voice their opinions, as you often claim? Why do you only apply that principle selectively and not universally?
I have only ever explained why this is happening—not that I support the change itself or the way it’s been implemented.
Using this situation as an excuse to spread misinformation, disinformation, and fuel conspiracy theories is completely the wrong way to address the issue. Surely even you can agree on that, right?
Now youve become a broken record. Congrats man, weird flexing. Have a good rest of your 72 hour day.
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Except for handful of comments that actually don’t know what they talking about, most people understand why - security is important. At the same time, people are correctly voicing opinion not only that it’s handled poorly - it’s done wrong way. Let me quickly share a quote where Bambu admitted to rejecting industry standard, more secure practices, for something that people are rightfully angry about:
You’ve been contrarian to people disagreeing with how, not why of handling the issue. Correct yourself.
Those words, in this order, used unironically, are probably the worst point of this 1k+ posts thread. Congrats.
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So you really can’t see the difference between the reasoning behind their decision to implement stronger security and the way it’s actually being executed? That’s the only point I’ve ever tried to argue.
As for LAN, which you probably think is “safe,” it’s only safer because it uses a 32-bit access key—hardly the gold standard for security. Or do you have some inside information you’d like to share, since you seem to know exactly why they chose to make this change?
Dude. In how many ways should I say I understand the need for security and at the same time clearly state that “Bambu Connect” is NOT the way to do that? In the quote it says that they could do more secure way, that’s industry standard and chose to do it the wrong way?
Also - you’re bad at mind reading because I don’t think LAN mode is “safe”, I haven’t taken time to analyze it, I have no opinion on it.
Now, to repeat again what I think bambu should do, assuming that the “cloud security” problems they cited are true: hire a cloud security expert(s), pay the consultation fees, cloud security issues go away with no community backlash. Problem solved. If there are other issues at hand: hire experts in relevant fields to help fix them the core problems.
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It seems we’re on the same page, but perhaps there’s a misunderstanding or difference in how we’re interpreting things.
That said, there are other issues they should be addressing, such as CVE-2021-34431, which could potentially impact LAN mode users if they have other devices connected to their printer LAN. I haven’t tested this vulnerability myself yet, but the printer is running a version that appears to be affected by it.
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So what is really going on here?
What has Bambu done?