Warped bed :( seems like a common QC issue

Okay, I admit, I love this drama :joy:

By the way, after returning the first one, I bought two X1C combos on the same day (sometime mid April). One turned out to have minimal banana and quite acceptable (I guess worst dip was less than 0.10 at 60 heated). The other had a V3 bed but with a dip going as bad as 0.50. The first one is a joy to use, the second one is being returned.

It is a tragedy really. Bambu is perfectly capable of churning out nice, reasonably flat bedsā€¦ I just think it sucks that the end user has to play this lottery. This is a fact, not a blanket statement.

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Duh.

Exactly why you kept getting called out. Plenty of us with nice, reasonably flat beds :wink:

I agree. No one ever doubted that or doubted you that your original bed had issues. It was the repeated statements that others didnā€™t/couldnā€™t have flat beds or were only printing ā€œEtsyā€ parts or whatever other nonsense you were saying that kept causing us to rebuff you.

So they did let you return that one? Didnā€™t have to do a chargeback?

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Nope. This is a lottery Matt. Nonsense is ending up with a banana bed and using chargeback threat to force a return to play the flat bed lottery. Donā€™t be daft. Convincing people that Bambu is mostly delivering ā€œreasonably flatā€ beds on $1500 printers is deception.

Other large expense consumer products from well established manufacturers also have inherent lottery games - like TVs. I have had to return multiple expensive plasma and OLEDs over the years for panel defects. It sucks, but manufacturing lotteries are not unique to Bambu. Most consumers donā€™t know better or donā€™t care about these things, and simply accept the products as-is.

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After several months of testing and lots of back and forth on the protypes, Iā€™m finally getting, what appears to be a final production sample from our machine shop. Hereā€™s a QC check of the machined surface. Measures flat to about 0.0015"

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I am so in! I sent you a PM.

Let me know when you are ready to ship!

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Is that measurement consistent from room temp to 110C?

I would like to ask you a few questions

  • What tool/ -diameter did you use?
  • How did you clamp it at the machine?
  • Was your measuring directly after machining?
  • Did you grind or just mill?
  • Is the plate screwed while measurment?

Thanks in advance.

Until we get some aftermarket solutions, I needed a FLAT build plate for my upcoming projects now. This is what I came up with:




Pulled the cool plate sticker off the stock plate and mounted the tronxy glass 255mmĀ² plate with some high temp rtv (didnā€™t have a sticker and my shop is right thereā€¦). I know there is probably a bunch I can do to get this PERFECT but this will work for what Iā€™m doing now and for the foreseeable future.

Plus, itā€™s kind of nice have a solution that I can pop in when I need ā€œFLATā€ and just use the pei plate for everything else.

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So you essentially have a glass bed; any temp issues? Also what are you using for release agent?

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No temp issues, temps are about 3c lower than what is commanded. I havenā€™t found the variance to cause any issues with my current filament profiles. Iā€™m using a ā€œlittleā€ bit of glue stick then spray with IPA and swirl with a paper towel. After print I then just spray a bit of IPA and swirl again. Seems like 5-6 prints before a full clean (soap and water) then start over with the initial glue stick application. Very doable for me as I generally donā€™t like using glue stick at all. Itā€™s working great.

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Very cool! And what do you have selected in your Bambu Studio plate selection?

I think vision miner and aquanet would work as well

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I printed the little qr code for ā€œTextured PEI PLateā€ and attached it to the plate for two reasons. My other and favorite plates are PEI so I can leave it set to that setting in the slicer, also so it doesnā€™t give me the ā€œerrorā€ where I have to hit ā€œresumeā€ every time I print with the glass plate.

I agree, with the nice top coating on this tonxy plate itā€™s really easy. Could probably use anything even remotely ā€œstickyā€ and youā€™d be fine.

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oh no, doesnā€™t that make LIDAR useless for you for first layer inspection?

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That looks like a great & simple solution. Does it do the nozzle wipe over the glass?

It does the nozzle wipe yes but not on the glass. It ends up just wasting some time back there as I havenā€™t edited out the gcode for the nozzle wipe. A couple reasons Iā€™ve decided not to edit the gcode, mainly ā€¦ Iā€™m lazy and I donā€™t (wonā€™t remember more accurately) want to change the settings back when I decide to print on the regular plates. It doesnā€™t hurt anythingā€¦ just a bit of wasted time. Which kinda helps on a first print actually as the glass takes longer to heat up than a regular plate. So all in all, it provides me with a cheap and simple ā€œplug and playā€ solution that I donā€™t have to rack my head about every time I use it.

Honestly, Bambu should look into an accessory like this to sell in the Bambu store. Call it the ā€œFlat Plateā€ :laughing: ā€¦ Bambu if youā€™re listening (reading)ā€¦ Royalties and honorable mention to the Goat when this happens ok? :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Good to know, thanks.

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I guess I missed your question. The lidar / for calibration works perfectly. I think mostly due to the matte black surface on the tronxy plate. Iā€™ve tried the different filaments so far, 2pla and one PETG. All of them calibrated just fine. On that note, ABL works just fine as well. The load sensors donā€™t have a problem at all. Honestly it just works just as well as a regular Bambu print plate. Couldnā€™t be happier.

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Iā€™m curious, have Bambulabs now sorted out the warped bed problem with newly delivered printers?
Ready to buy an X1C but holding off until then.

No, and replacement beds are banana garbage too.

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