BEWARE: RANT
I run in lan mode…why? because of a number of reasons
Im not the slightest bit interested in anything outside of printing, I run a business and these machines are not toys I play with…they are workhorses
I dont want any cloud service or interactions…NONE.
Based on the above, the fact that I have clients IP with NDA and its absolutely none of BL business, NONE
Ive had enough of people who have nothing to do with me, somehow being involved in my life
SO
Why does BBLS force me to, every now and then, probably between 1-2 months have to reconnect my machine, login on bambu studio on my phone (and force me to reinstall an app I do not agree with) so as to REBIND my machines? Why?
WHY?
Its infuriating and with the security issues becoming so critical in the internet culture…WHY?
And with the phantom crashes previously from BAMBU server…
WHY?
Im just so over the disruptions when no one else ie Creality, Comgrow, TronXY and all the other machines here, does this???
Does anyone object to this intrusion of privacy and constant disruption. Surely there must be others?
Bambu Labs, please stop it. Just give us direct access options with no interference AND NO RELOGIN TO AN ACCOUNT…please. I dont want a BAMBU account and if BBL is truly honest and no hidden agenda, why is there no detached option available.
Its the only thing I have negative about the X1s…its just %&^&^(&) and I dont swear often but just settting up a run of print jobs and have to go through this
I’ve owned an X1C for nearly a year now, and I use it in LAN mode for the same reasons as you, and I’ve never had to rebind the machine to anything ever.
I entered the magic code for LAN access once and that’s been it. I don’t remember having to re-enter it after a firmware update.
I don’t use Handy and I do not log in in BambuStudio.
When I click on the Device tab, the network discovery shows my printer and I can use it without any further complication.
I agree that the whole log-in process is silly and should be wholly optional. And that extends to Bambu Handy. When on the same network as the printer, I should be able to monitor it without involving Bambu’s cloud servers. And it’s definitely ridiculous that if not in LAN-only mode, the files are first uploaded from your computer to the cloud server, and then back down to the printer.
Many of us have ranted on this topic. This has been a single point of almost universal contention and Bambu has been very clear on this… “You don’t like it, buy someone else’s printer” or at least their actions or in this case, non actions, say this.
Let’s call it what it is: Bambu’s networking support is embarrassingly primitive. Either they don’t have engineers capable of handling basic TCP/IP connectivity, or their leadership is too arrogant to admit they lack the expertise. The outcome is the same: they refuse to listen to users and won’t fix their broken firmware.
Earlier this year, Bambu had the nerve to gaslight me, claiming, “There is no problem” after an update, only to quietly release a patch with a vague “fixed rare network issue.” They’ve also stonewalled users on offline firmware updates for the P1 series, while giving that option to the X1. I refuse to update past v4.0 because Bambu has shown they’ll arbitrarily abandon back-rev support, crippling any meaningful self-troubleshooting.
Bambu has clearly demonstrated a complete disregard for providing even the most basic level of technical support. Their refusal to offer proper firmware updates, reliable network connectivity, or back-rev support is a blatant sign they’re not interested in solving real customer issues. Instead of addressing these glaring flaws, they double down on ignoring their user base and leave us with barely functional devices that they won’t even properly support. This is not just neglect—it’s deliberate. It is in fact, their policy.
Here’s just a short list of what’s missing that one has to actually go through the trouble of removing from a standard Linux Kernel which Bambu is said to implement.
Setting
Description
IP address
Manually Set the printer’s assigned IP address, either static or dynamic (DHCP).
Netmask
Subnet mask of the network (e.g., 255.255.255.0).
Gateway
Manually set the default gateway for network traffic, usually the router’s IP.
DNS server
Manually assigne DNS server addresses.
Frequency/Channel
The WiFi frequency (2.4 GHz or 5 GHz) and channel used.**
Authentication
Method used to authenticate to the WiFi network (e.g., WPA-PSK).
Diagnostic Logs
So users can verify why there may be connectivity issues and self-remedy
** This one is a mind boggler, we can’t choose 2.5Ghz vs 5Ghz? I mean seriously??? There are so many use-cases where one is better over the other but most important, some routers won’t allow one to chose which connectivity channel so this is a great example of where one would want manual control.
Any one of us would immediately recognize these settings if we ever were forced to manually set up a WiFi device such as a printer, smart TV or even a cell phone to connect to a network for speedier initial connectivity or troubleshooting. But in Bambu’s world Noooooo… go pound sand Mr. Customer, we know better than you.
Agree, which is the point behind the rant but in show of support for the OP, I wanted to add a voice. Perhaps if others would speak out, then maybe just maybe, Bambu will listen. I won’t be holding my breath though. They’ve clearly got much bigger issues…
Well its comforting to know Im not the only one that is done with Bambu. That is the last X1 I buy…the Qidi plus 4 looks good on review and is cheaper and larger vol. I would def do solely for Magneto X but its not dialled enough out of the box atm
I guess I just vote with my wallet…and leave some truthful reviews
I just hope it has an ethernet connector…who would, in their right mind insult professional users with wifi only access to a machine
I don’t understand this, I can go 3-5 months without having to go through this, then all of the sudden, EVERY single time I turn the printer on, I have to re-enter this 8 digit number. It has got so bad, this past month I have p-touched the number on the front of my CRT, so I don’t have to get up, walk across the house, look up the number then return to my desk to enter it in BBS. The number never changes, it is the same as it was when I bought the printer, it is stored in the front panel of my P1S, why do I have to keep entering it?
I too have the same issue. I have a theory that I could test out if Bambu allowed us log access but they won’t so it will remain a theory.
BTW: What I have been forced to do is to take a photo of the pin and store it in my phone. Then each time it gives me grief, I have to cycle power on the printer, and then entered the pin from the saved PIN. Ohhhh… hour user friendly… NOT!!! Then it will work for a week or two and then not…
It doesn’t matter. LAN-only mode presents the same issues. The problem is Bambulab, not the network. But seriously, to paraphrase Steve Jobs during the iPhone 4 Antenna-gate debacle, “Non-issue, just don’t use it that way”.
Wish it was that easy…I do lots of prints…SD is not doable
The crime is, klipper runs so nicely for all the other printers although all it looka like mission control when.all the screens are full of fluidd ui :+)
@Aurasphere I wanted the magneeto x to be good soooo bad. Their ideas are great but seems like they lack in budget or something.
The plus 4 does have ethernet. Imagine a larger and more capable x1e. Thats been my experience so far.
When I send a print file, its near instant. No routing across the world through 10 servers and back.
The whole qidi ecosystem is not as smooth as Bambu though(yet), so be prepared to use reddit or facebook instead of a forum. I havnt had to use qidi support, so I cant compare the 2 on that. But I imagine it cant be much worse than Bambu or creality but probably not as good as prusa or anker.
The response of “Well, don’t buy it if you don’t like it” is not reasonable for issues that are not sufficiently advertised before purchase. Calling something ‘LAN mode’ implies that a LAN is all you need.
If a product whose prime advertised function has no sensible reason to require remote server access actually requires remote server access to perform its prime function (or transfers data sneakily this way) then it is unacceptable and regulators should ban it from the market. That would be true data protection and privacy. But we do not have that.
News flash: you did willingly accept their T&Cs when ordering and paying for your BL printer. From data protection perspective (at least in the EU/EEA), you’ve explicitly and clearly consented to their T&Cs including to any limitations or particular conditions in connection with the sale and usage of the printer, which includes your user data and your print files to be transferred, processed and stored by BL wherever and whenever it may please them to do so. Ultimately, by purchasing a BL machine you’ve agreed to submit to their contractual and service providing conditions. It’s either that or you’ll have to find another reliable and secure way to use your printer without going through their servers. And, if you do manage to do that, do share it with the rest of us. I for one, I’m willing and interested in doing the same. I believe there are plenty more like us, so do share if you will find a way.
I’m having trouble understanding this rant because I’ve run for months at a time in LAN-only mode and never had a need to “bind” the printer to an account…
Obviously, cloud functions like profile synchronization, printing from Makerworld, and the Handy phone app will not work. Firmware updates need to be made via download and SDcard.
Studio works just fine without an account, but do you have to log out twice to actually break the connection. If you are logged in, go to Home and log out, then hit Login/Register again to actually log out.
Well Im not sure…but there are a lot of us.
I do have dual boot on my pc…but this issue seems random. I will just be working ie in orca or bambu, and go to send to print, then it will come up with no connected device. Then I have to go to handy, turn off lan mode, log into handy and rebind the device which now not existent in the account. When I scan the QR it connects. Then I have to reboot the X1 and when I reopen BBLS the printer is now available. It does not have the latest firmware because as a professional safeguard and the system is working, it is ofter more trouble than it gains.
With the contrast of the only other machine even needing a reboot are the k1 maxs when the cameras stop working…all the other klippers are faultless in that regard
Others having the latest firmware still have the same prob
After coding for (edit 30) years…yes
Running studios, manufacturing plants and a lot of stuff in between…absolutely yes
If peeps are playing with printing toys etc…it doesnt matter…when its your business, do not go and grab any updates/hotfixes until they are well into the dev pipeline and all the unpaid testers/early adopters have done the work
When you have a factory full of personnel standing around because remote vendors have logged in and "updated"production lines or you turn up to work where 50 paid architects are in the office and cant work because of a windows update…hard lessons are learnt
