Why does Bambu lab not solve the X2D camera privacy issue?

Hello,

As much as I like my Bambu Lab printers I also dislike the fact that Bambu Lab does not really care about the camera privacy issue.

The fact is that the camera capture way too much outeside the printer.

Why have they not addressed this eg. with a simple print that works ?

Camera capturing outside the printer?

Are you saying it can see through the glass doors and windows, and capture the room?

And you want a print to shield the windows as it’s somehow better than using tape?

OK, there should be a print for this

BUT because this is a “simple” shape I would say this is a really good time to start learning 3d modelling. It will improve your experience of the printer by increasing what you can make and allow you to modify existing prints.

You do not even need CAD skills. You can make cubes in Bambu slicer, drag and scale them, and combine them as necessary. Although the job would be much easier in a basic software like TinkerCAD.

I would recommend first make a “mock up” out of cardboard to get the shape and design right, and then make that in the software.

Yes, it captures outside the ‘printer’
e.g. in my case My offiuce table is to the right of the printer and I’m in the live stream ond the timelaps

I have tried a few of the solutions on Makerworld, but none of them are working

I’m trying in TinkerCad, but :slight_smile:

i am a little confused on this one.

If access to the camera is locked behind your login for your machine, what is left to address?

The onus is on the consumer for placement for it not to capture anything you don’t want it to. and in the case of the screenshot here, simply rotate the machine or put some one way film on the door. the one way film is probably the best solution as it allows you to see in, but the camera not to see out.

I think it is fair and reasonable for BBL to not have this as a concern.

Where do you think these videos are going making it a privacy concern?

“Just rotate the printer” is usually not that simple as you need access to the door.

One assumes the OP has already ruled this out, as it’s a fairly obvious thing to try.

edit for a quite a while (and I asked this before on this forum) I was looking for a way to reverse the door on P1/X1 as the direction of the door forced me to place the printer at the “wrong” end of a workbench. Refridgerators. washing machines, etc have reversible doors.

my mistake - I’m to the right, printer is on my left side

i never assume anything. i myself have missed simple solutions to things out of frustration. the one way film is the easiest solution here if he has tried that.

but why do I need to modify my printer ??

this is something that should never have happend

i would say because why would BBL concern themselves with the privacy of what the camera captures if the control of the videos is yours and not accessible to the public?

also, we need to print things like the poop chutes, a tpu roll holder for less jamming, and other stuff. my impression of some of this is that those who 3d print are always modifying, it is kind of like a right of passage if you get what i mean, so why would this part that is important to you be any different.

i not saying this shouldnt be important to you, i can see why it would if you are stuck with the printer being there at that angle, what i am pointing out is that there are simple solutions and i dont think the onus here is on BBL because i cant just go and view your videos.

well… the timelaps goes to Bambu’s server

When a part “should” be provided but is not, the question is sometimes would enough users buy it to offset the cost of manufacturing it?

Personally I would not purchase it, as I would tape a sheet to the printer if I cared, but I suspect I am not typical. I also don’t print “poop chutes” on printers. I cut up a filament box and put it behind the printer. At some point I should just drill a hole in the worktop and put a bin under the bench but I cannot be bothered.

edit Don’t some A-series have camera covers? Bambu would not provide those if they were really trying to record everyone.

It would have been better to post about the issue in general, rather than just regarding the X2D specifically. The problem is even worse with other printers. For example, the cameras on the A1 series capture large portions of the room.

Since the camera is connected to the cloud - that is, directly to the Bambu servers - certain concerns are justified. Since this particular part is closed source, no one can determine exactly how secure it is.

That’s not even specifically a Bambu problem, but a general issue with IoT (Internet of Things). A small vulnerability in the network, and anyone can access all your cameras - not just the printer.

That’s why mechanical protection is still the best option. In other words, limit the field of view.


That’s not quite right - since the printer is connected to the cloud, Bambu has access to the entire printer. The only alternative is to run the printer offline.

Is the x2 camera the same as the one on the p2s? Since i own a p2, i’m thinking of designing something for solving this issue (the p2s also has this problem)

I do not know if it’s the same, but I have now tried 4 different prints and none of them works for the X2D - the official one from BambuLab block so much that the camera cannot read the barcode of the build plate and wait for user input

Your point is totally correct but I feel like you’re putting it in an extremely rude way, mocking a fellow forum member.

Also, the fact that there is an easy remedy for a given problem doesn’t justify the maker in letting the problem exist.

sorry, how am I being rude ?

Did you not get one in the tool box ? (h2s)

Nope, my printer is a X2D

From comments made when i first started using the forum, its local only anyway, your network

If I can see it in the Handy app, I doubt that it’s local only, but I can be wrong

Anyway, I will try to design a cover as I do not like that the camera capture outside the printer