Are these thumbnails AI generated?

No, i have a contact person there. And yes, I have been working as an IT specialist for application development since 2003. It’s best to open another ten topics with the same content. This will definitely lead to something.

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Depends on the participants attitude.

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Since 2000 that i work in IT and yes, several topics can and should be open when an issue is present without a fix in that timeframe. That is how fixes are reported and applied in many cases. That is one of the use cases for a community forum. Companies grow from their clients and not the other way around.

But since you are being extremely open minded, and publicly saying without fears or repercussions, that you indeed have a “contact” in Bambu Lab, then we, as the normal users/creators, can conclude that indeed there is a certain bias in how Bambu Lab/Makerworld penalizes or differentiates users/creators in this platform, since @BambuLab / @MakerWorld did not come and say otherwise, what itself is serious enough already.

But it’s good to know. That explains the several failed reports with links, pictures, and more about certain creators in this platform.

I will rest my case and in the future will refrain myself from responding to you or to other creators that may have the same kind of atitude.

In the meantime i will gladly discuss over this matter since it’s something i use on a daily basis (AI) and i think it’s important to define a line on how it should and should not be used. And deceiving people, atleast in my book, is not the way AI should be used. People who deceive others online, deceive also people in real life. That’s not AI’s fault :wink:

For the rest of the people here, please maintain this topic civilized. I would like it to be open to discussion, since this is a discussion forum.

Have a great day everyone

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hmm is this true does @MakerWorld exercise censorship of discussion?

i did not follow the soap opera on the other thread, only gave it a glance as it was way too long, but the bottom of the question is, those thumbnails are clearly AI generated, they are not prints or even 3d renderings, they are just 2d images created by a computer model, is this ok or not @MakerWorld ?

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No it was not censored. But a Modo had to intrevien and calm down the situation because the discussion was heated and was going nowhere.
And The OP of that post agreed with the Modo to close the topic.

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Nevertheless, I personally think that unrealistic representations of a 3d model, and especially as an image thumbnail, is an issue because it’s misleading. And it’s a growing issue that need to be addressed now because of all the AI generated image tool available.

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Indeed that’s the main issue. I’ll re-iterate what I’ve said in the other topic: renders are fine as long as they clearly represent what the model is and do not deceive. AI Slop on the other hand is not “render”. I get why someone might use AI for inspiration and then model it out (that’s IF the model is actually modelled out, not some AI img-to-3d), but to have “inspiration” image as cover when actual model is totally different scale, size and has different surface finish is very deceptive.

Users like SabreDesing or HpInvent are examples of renders done right: the model in the render is to the scale, the finish is very close to real-life results and there’s no deception.

And even when using ai img-to-print an honest person can do something like AI generated puppy 3d model by hobby printing - MakerWorld and there’s no deception there.

All it boils down to is the fact that AI generated images are optimized to “look good” and since there’s no direct connection between AI generated image and the actual model that’s deceitful and that’s what shouldn’t be allowed.

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Very well put, agree 100%

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Artificial Intelligence (AI) is just a tool.

I don’t think this issue is with the tool, but how it is being used. The tool is not the problem. What is being done with the tool is the issue.

Any tool used to mislead people is wrong. The tool doesn’t matter.

If someone was purposefully misleading others with hand-drawn images, it would be the same issue. Yes, they may be a great artist, but misleading people is the problem here.

No one should have misleading information only for the purpose of farming points. That is the issue that I think is really being discussed here.

AI is just the newest buzz-word that draws people in.

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If 90% of people like Deltaprints uploads, is there a majority issue, or minority issue?

Are we incorrectly speaking on behalf of others here when we say he is misleading people?

As many have said, it is misleading. Just look at the most recently upload by that given designer to see a very pointed example of the issue. The ribbed bowl does not match the actual printed design. That’s an issue because people clicked on the model and maybe even downloaded or print it based on that cover image. Do we want to open up MakerWorld someday and see an entire page of AI generated cover photos or see the actual model that can be printed on our amazing printers?

@bill.m.davis is absolutely correct, there is no issue in using AI to come up with your concepts or even using the super cool AI tools that MakerWorld is releasing, it’s when the image is completely different from the model is where there is an issue.

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But is it a problem if it is misleading to any degree if 90% of users don’t care?

Download this an tell me that’s not misleading and that’s not an issue

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Truth is not relative. Perspective is relative.

Your perspective may be different. But, not caring about the truth doesn’t change the truth. And presenting misleading information is the opposite of truth, no matter your perspective.

Ethics. We need more people caring about ethics…

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Marketing is all about stretching the truth, and not all truths are valuable. Particularly not to everyone.

Again I argue, if 90% of people don’t care, is it a majority or minority problem?

I am very interested in where your statistics come from?

Is this your “perspective” and just a number you are pulling out of the air? Or do you have actual evidence to back up your round number statistic?

I am genuinely curious, because if the numbers back this statement up. I understand your argument to be that this is only an academic argument and of no real meaning?

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Bill, I placed an important word before that quote that changes the context of the sentence. Please do not quote me out of context.

From what I’ve seen here is that there is a small group of frequent posters that are the loudest about this topic, I am simply not seeing a majority of people finding an issue with this. It seems this small group is speaking for everyone else without evidence that it’s an issue for everyone else.

You are so true. I apologize.

If 90% people do not care. But, that argument has to come from somewhere. Is it your perspective or based on a fact that it could be true?

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wow that’s a great world view… nice :smiley:

the topic at hand is not whether a majority or a minority cares that they are presented with the truth (which is a weird one that we have to contemplate that), but if presenting images that are not the model ok in makerworld, according to what the site should be

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