Best "GoTo" Filament

So I’ve had many 3D printers over the years. When I started 5 years ago, ABS was the “pro” filament and PLA was for everything else, and mostly I used ABS. As time went by, for my “Prusa” years, I thought PLA was good for most things, and it worked well. I know many “Prusa” people loved PETG, but I wasn’t a fan. Too stringy and too much of a pain.

So fast forward to 2024. I have all X1C’s or P1S printers, each with an AMS. So PLA works, but I get many broken filaments in the AMS, especially if the PLA spool isn’t used all the time. So ABS/ASA I thought. But it does stink, and the fumes definitely cover the inside of the printer. I have a fume extractor, but that cools the air temp. And adhesion of ABS/ASA to the bed isn’t great. So am I crazy to rethink PETG? The Bambu printers do a great job with PETG. Anyone have PETG as their “Go To” filament for Bambu printers? It just might work.

If so, what is the best bed plate type?

PETG is meh.

Go to fillament always has been and always will be PA6.

Which bed material do you use? Garolite? I have a Garolite plate from Lightyear 3D that I like. I’ll try more PA6, just color choice is a bit limited. What filament manufacturer do you use? Matterhackers?

I’ve had brittle filament here and there, but I don’t anymore after I started drying and/or keeping them in a dry box. I got tired of filament breaking while trying to feed it or right in the middle of printing so I figured it was worth taking the extra steps to keep it dry to reduce the headache. That being said, PLA is still my go to filament for everyday prints, PETG is just for a support layer, and ASA for most everything else.

I hear that - It does take a bit of trial and error to figure out what works best for the type of stuff you like to print. I do a mix of fun/stupid things, some prototyping, and then I also print functional pieces that need to be able to withstand some abuse, or just regular use. I use ASA about as much as I use PLA. I thought PETG would be great but, it can be a pain - it’s just too sticky sometimes. Depends on what you’re printing though - PETG or PETG CF works great for some prints. I’ve been using PC and PA CF more frequently. But like I said initially, it does take some trial and error to find a good filament/bed/settings combination for each material type, and sometimes things are different between manufacturers and even colors from the same manufacturer. Like the PolyLite ASA is good, but some of the colors need tweaked settings. Anyway, here’s what I’ve figured out works well for me. Keep in mind that the environment plays a factor too. I live in an elevated dry climate and my printer is in the basement. So it’s cool and pretty dry down there. Usually ~65ºF and 26-30% humidity. I have my X1C insulated with a couple layers of radiant barrier - that stuff works wonders and I wouldn’t be able to print stuff like ASA or PC without that.

PLA, PLA CF (various - Bambu, Inland, Overture, MatterHackers, FlashForge) - I usually use Textured PEI, PEO or PEY (choose textured plate in settings), or H1H (choose high temp plate in settings) - these usually work with the bambu settings, some filaments might need +5º on the print bed.

PETG, PETG CF (mainly FlashForge, some Bambu) - Textured PEI, H1H. (I print PETG the least)

ASA (PolyLite, FlashForge, Inland) - WhamBam PEX or 3DHUB PEX - settings are similar for both, sometimes I need to use elmer’s purple glue or a brim - depends on the model. Bed temp ~ 105-106ºC, hot end 220ºC first layer, and maybe 5-25º higher for the rest of the print - first layer temp is important though, or else you’ll ruin the PEX sheet. I’ve also used the engineering plate with bambu liquid glue or nano polymer, that works, but harder to clean. Some people say ASA works well with textured PEI, but I haven’t been able to get that to work at all. If I have trouble with a specific ASA filament I usually try drying it, but often it prints fine out of the box. The fumes are way less when printing at this temp too, which is great because that stuff is toxic.

PC (Bambu) - WhamBam PEX or 3DHUB PEX, elmer’s purple glue. Bed temp 108ºF, first layer ~290º, other layers at 280º. I always dry this first.

PA CF (various) - I try to reserve this for when I actually need it since it’s usually pretty expensive. I managed to get the eSUN PA6 CF dialed in and that stuff is great. They have a filament profile available on their website I think. I usually use the engineering plate and bambu liquid or nano polymer. Haven’t tried this on the PEX sheets yet, but that should probably work fine. This usually needs to be dried first.

Oh, and I absolutely need my enclosure at 40-45º to start printing ASA and PC, otherwise the print fails. So I pre-heat the bed for a bit first. I do the same for PA but only because that’s what’s recommended and it works for me. I haven’t had as much trouble with PC and PA filaments as with ASA.

Looking forward to trying the Lightyear G10 bed whenever that arrives.

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3DXtech.

Plate smooth or textured pei with vision miner nano polymer.

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I have settled for PLA and PC. To my surprise, I find PC to be easier to print than PETG on the X1C.
And it has such a great mixture of desirable properties, that it is my first choice for anything that has to provide more than a nice look. For the latter I still use PLA.
I"m currently still experimenting with PETG because it is cheaper but I don’t know how long I will try.

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I like ASA but it can be fussy, especially bigger prints. Close it all up and it works well, but still smell the fumes, and it actually leaves a film on the inside glass (and Im sure the rest of the printer, also.) So long-term, I’m not sure how it will change my health, or the printer’s health. I have a BOFA 3D PrintPRO 3, which I can connect to the output vent on the back. It eliminates all the fumes I can smell, and all the printer inside film, but it also decreases the inside temps a lot. I’ve tried using an interval controller, 1 minute on, 4 minutes off, which kinda works. It’s a work in progress. I wish they could make an ASA without the fumes. Currently I’m not sure I have an executable solution.

The Lightyear3D Garolite beds are great for nylon, and many other materials. (Customer service from them, is very POOR however.) With Garolite and 3D Lac, almost everything sticks, and 3D Lac isn’t needed for nylon.

Plate smooth or textured pei with vision miner nano polymer.

Was that for nylon?

I’ll try PC more. Thanks. Is there more colors possible than black or white? I guess you can’t have everything. :sweat_smile:

What is your “Go To” type of print?
I use every filament type based on the purpose, and textured and smooth plates are the most used as they permit me to print every material.
Yet, I find the Eng and Cool plates to be as reliable.

What is your “Go To” type of print?
I use every filament type based on the purpose, and textured and smooth plates are the most used as they permit me to print every material.
Yet, I find the Eng and Cool plates to be as reliable.

You must have a very large room, especially if you have lots of colors of each. I have 85 spools and only a few colors of common types, and what I have only scratches the surface.

that filter is interesting. i might look into one. right now i have my printer in my basement, it doesn’t vent out with ASA, to keep the heat in, and with the lower printing temps needed for the PEX bed, i barely smell it, there’s also barely any warping. i have my printer wrapped in radiant barrier, which may help keep some of the fumes in. that all said, i do run an exhaust fan in the basement 24/7.
sounds about right with Lightyear3D. my bed was supposed to ship last month, and it still hasn’t shipped. customer service doesn’t respond.

I got your point. I do have space, yet I estimate that I would have a number of open spools similar (maybe slightly less) to yours, plus about 20/30 in the box; yet, it’s a nightmare to manage it.

I am not an aesthetic print hobbyist; my main interests in 3D printing are functional parts, experimentation (e.g. multi-material prints), kinetic and mechanical-driven prints, mechanical devices, etc…
My “Go To” filament is PETG, which I found to fulfil most of my print requirements at a low cost (11-15 €/kg). This choice wasn’t something I would have foreseen two/three years ago, as I always get better results with more demanding filaments (e.g. ASA, ABS, PC) than with PETG. I would say that besides PLA with 40% wood (the clogs and excessive brittleness are a nightmare), good-looking PETG prints were my greatest challenge.

Despite being available in various colours and providing good-looking prints, I wouldn’t see it as the best for aesthetic prints, mainly because post-processing (e.g. bounding, filling, painting) is more demanding and less effective than PLA.

A “Go To” filament relates to your needs (type of prints) and cost. If the latter weren’t relevant, I would prefer ASA, but it wouldn’t replace the regular PETG, PC, and TPU usage. I still use ABS (instead of ASA) for stiff interior usage as it is cheaper.
I love PA and PET filaments and their blends (CF, GF), yet the need for a larger nozzle hinders the look for small and complex prints; additionally, the cost and requirements (dryness) limit the usage to specific cases.

If, as most, you aim for good-looking and “stiff” prints and the cost isn’t relevant, I would advise PLA-CF or PETG-CF. You will, however, be limited regarding colourful prints.

Yes, it’s taken a bit to organize. :laughing: I print all kinds for fun, I just print for fun and for friends, so always something different. I do use lots of colors for this and that. Although Bambu Lab printers print most types well, I still find it benefical to focus on a subset of filaments to get better on those. Sure, everyone does PLA, but I think it’s beneficial to focus on a few others also. None are perfect, but overcoming the disadvantages is the trick. I thought ABS/ASA might work, and some new ones have no smell, so they might be good. Maybe nylon or pc for some, we’ll see. If I could stick with Bambu Lab, that might be good, because the RFID reader in the AMS is sure nice.

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The filter I have actually has an output hose which, in theory can send the heated air back into the printer, but 1) no place to shoot it back in, and 2) doubtful after traveling through tubing and filter its still warm, 3) lots of big hoses connected to a relatively light printer.

May I ask where you obtained those filament containers? Those look rather handy considering how little space they consume.

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How may prints do you get per application? I saw a youtube by CNC Kitchen who interviewed the CEO who described one of his early trials with it, where he said he got something like 45 no-fail prints from just one application. Well, it made for a good story, but what he didn’t say was whether that was typical or not.

Depends on what I’m doing. PEEK, PEKK I can apply it every time. Stuff like PLA definitely more than 40 prints. Stuff like nylon and polycarbonate I usually get about five prints per application. Keep in mind these aren’t blends these are legit pure polycarbonate nylon. Blends closer to 35 to 40.

I preheat the bed to 50C then I put some on and spread it with a foam standing brush.

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Wet PLA filament becomes brittle - get a filament dryer

Your comment about it getting worse if the roll is not used for a long time makes me very certain this is a moisture issue

For what it’s worth, PLA sells in huge quantities compared to the others so most people prefer PLA. For engineering and outdoor objects, other filaments might be better.