Well, everyone is the architect of their own fate. I don’t know what part of the world you live in, but in Europe we value data security and anonymity very much. Authentication by phone in trusted financial institutions is one thing and another in a Chinese company. It is not without reason that one of the most popular software for phones at the moment, which is more and more often added by phone manufacturers straight from the box, is SMS and phone spam filtering.
I am in the US. Like I said above, binding a phone number isn’t new.
When one buys a Bambu Lab printer, one has to provide credit card number, mailing address. I forget if a phone number is also required, but some curriers require a phone number to have an account with them.
Many of the users also have the Handy app installed on their phones.
So all in all, providing a phone number doesn’t appear to be adding a huge security risk to what users have already provided.
More importantly, what would you suggest to make it better?
It’s not even as bad as that. As I understand it, a profile can physically download as many models as they want from another profile, it’s just that only the first 5 downloads count towards the second accounts points (in the time allotment).
It’s a Polish saying, I don’t know if I translated it correctly and if you understand what I want to say.
What you write is true, privacy has recently become very cheap, some people sell their personal data for any profit. Soon, you won’t be able to use a city toilet, without an app that collects all possible data.
What do I suggest to make it better? The simpler and more transparent the rules, the better for everyone. What’s happening here is starting to look like a catch-22.
Yes, sorry. That’s what I meant. One profile will only get credit for the five downloads.
It would not be single user.
Say user comes to site, download five items from single profile (no yours any random one) over 2 hours.
then 3 , 4 or even 5 hours later visits your profile and downloads one item. you get zero download for this and no credit.
I understood what that saying meant. Great saying by the way. The task at hand though is to find a better way to move forward, given that at least some people are not satisfied with the solution that MW is trying to implement.
I agree that the simpler and more transparent the rules are, the better chance they will have in being effective.
So the suggestion of authenticating accounts and only allow them to upload, download and print is not simple enough or not transparent enough? What apporaches will make it simpler and more transparent?
ok, here is the test I did this morning (Note different models from different designers):
download 1 from designer 1 = download counted
… wait 15 minutes
download 2 from designer 2 = download counted
… wait 10 minutes
download 3 from designer 3 = download counted
… wait 15 minutes
download 4 from designer 4 = download counted
… wait 20 minutes
download 5 from designer 5 = download counted
… wait 15 minutes
download 6 from designer 6 = download NOT counted
… wait 60 minutes
download 7 from designer 7 = download NOT counted
… wait 30 minutes
download 8 from designer 8 = download NOT counted
And now, hours later I downloaded from another designer and it also didn’t count.
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Then it must be something with your account because I downloaded these six models earlier and all six of them received credit
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Ok, thanks for doing it. That was why I asked for others to do it to see if it is my account or everyone.
I’m thinking anyone who was involved in download trading has had their account restricted.
Maybe a test of at least 10 downloads would have been more conclusive as these are all fairly popular creators and items you downloaded from. Your download on the 6th model could have been overlapped with someone elses download.
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Never done anything like that. No idea why my downloads wouldn’t be counted. And I am getting points but at turtle speed.
That was the first time I downloaded any of those designs.
Which model and what is your reasoning for this?
The specific model you downloaded last might not be crucial, but I’m presuming it was the Beast Mecha.
All individuals who have conducted tests on the system have reported that only the first five downloads are recognized, with any subsequent downloads not being counted. You are the first to report a sixth download being successfully registered. However, this observation is based on a single instance, which is inherently susceptible to inaccuracies. One potential explanation for this anomaly could be a simultaneous download occurring with another user, leading to a misleading result. To mitigate this risk and enhance the credibility of your findings, it is advisable to download an additional five models (10 downloads within a day), preferably those that are less popular. This strategy would help in minimizing the possibility of errors and bolster the validity of your test results. This suggestion is particularly pertinent given that you appear to be the only user to have experienced more than five downloads being acknowledged by the system.
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It looks like some of you guys aren’t getting your downloads counted because your account had been tags as potential bots.
Maybe the ones affected should also share how many downloads they do on a normal day, that will give a clearer picture of what happening.
That is a really stupid accuse like that, completely baseless. no evidence just random pointing.
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I’ll give that a shot a little later. It’s going to take me some time to find as many less popular models that I intent to print. Also, my lasagna is almost done 
Not sorry in the slightest bit. Download traders are no better than bot users and if they haven’t had their accounts restricted, then they should. Be offended all you want.
So I found another six models from designers I wasn’t aware of. All six models have less than 100 downloads. All six received download credit. That makes 12 downloads, 12 credit received since whatever time it was earlier that I had posted.
I’d also like to point out that I haven’t experienced any out of the ordinary download activity since all of this started. The spikes coincide with certain models being featured.
I reiterate my earlier statement, I’m thinking anyone who was involved in download trading has had their account restricted.
For everyone else affected, there is a perfectly reasonable explanation in my opinion.
Also, while looking for those models, I found the Gang of Worms collection by @ValeriaMomo and they’re an instant favourite. Can’t wait to print these.