You might want to do a quick-search on JPSM3DPrints and check your models.
https://www.etsy.com/shop/jpsm3dprints/?etsrc=sdt
They seem to be a new 3d printing service on social media and sell at least 1 of my models commercially without permission on Etsy. They also use it in their pictures to advertise their shop on google maps…
Sadly there is a ton of those services out there and even more individuals.
A lot of the creative designers I bought models from over the years left the big platforms behind them already.
Stung too many times, sick and tired of chasing up their models and asking for take downs that not always happen.
Most now run their own little websites with shop option to buy models, usually on a subscription base.
Meaning you sign up for a tier, can download all models within that tier and print/sell the models for as long as you keep paying the subscription.
It’s not perfect, there is always a black sheep here and there but it seemed to help (the creator).
Problem is that most creators started with not just good intentions but also with a lot of trust in the selling platform they choose.
We reached the point where we should start to question if there really are no better options for creators to keep their rights and the money for their creations.
Take our open source 3MF format - it already offers encryption options but they are not used by any company or hosting service.
Same for a basic hash code identification of uploaded models - possible for many years but no one dares to implement it as it would mean getting pro-active of fraudsters.
Protecting the rights of others costs money and the spending has to be justified, that’s why there is so much reluctance to do what needs to be done.
I suggested this already in the past but maybe a refresher is due? >
How many real and good creators do we have on Makerworld alone?
I refuse to accept that there wouldn’t be a few also capable of whacking up a nice website or even forum.
So why not create a place where only real makers come together, run the website, make the rules ???
Finding sponsors would not be that hard easy considering the content on offer.
Which means advertisements would be limited to those from sponsors and not fill the page with junk.
Added benefit is that such a site could actually make profit, with the sponsors enough to allow for real legal action if hosted models get offered elsewhere without permission.
Creators would come with a reputation users can see and check, new creators can advance in the ranks based on the quality and maybe even quantity of their models…
Just think about it…
As a creator, wouldn’t you prefer to have your work in a place where YOU are in charge and control ? 
Maybe a dumb question, but how do you know it’s unlicensed? Most designers have a patreon. I guess you know because you don’t have one?
Also, what is the likelihood that you initially uploaded the model with an open license and later changed it? (I know I did that once 
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I’m just curious because I was wondering how the designers I’m paying on patreon know that I’m an “official seller”. My best guess is they don’t and they trust people will do the right thing?
It seems this seller is not actually paying anyone if what you say is accurate.
that is a big big octopus
now that you mention it one of those models looks like one I uploaded onto thingiverse a few years ago.
ill check.
As a Patreon designer, and someone who licenses more expensive models independently, I periodically check Etsy and other sites for our models. If the store doesn’t display our info somewhere in the description or photos, I check our active subscriptions. If they don’t appear to have one, I ask them to confirm. After about a week goes by I report them unless they confirm otherwise or offer to resolve it a different way. This is just random though, and far from perfect. There will always be some that slip through the cracks. At the end of the day, I don’t really care that much as long as it’s fair to paying members.
Note: Our policy (like most others) state that you can only sell our prints with an active subscription. We don’t sell models for commercial use unless it’s subscription based.
It’s my model. I designed it, posted it on mw and I never allow for commercial licenses.
That’s what I guessed, thank you both for clarifying 
I can only speak for my experience and talks I had with those designers I keep buying models from…
As for many creators here and on Makerworld they eventually found their models offered elsewhere and without consent.
Or someone informed them about those things like I did a few times when I spotted models I paid for in dubious places…
I mainly gift the things I print but those I do sell occasionally are listed according the rules of the creator.
For almost all of ‘my’ creators this means leaving their name or link in the listing.
So if I would, for example, sell a hand painted model that HumbleJOE created than my listing would read a bit like this:
HumbleJOE miniature hand painted and fully licensed …
It is courtesy and their rules I agree to.
Part of this, in recent years, is that some creators ask for your seller or online shop name in order to weed out those just pretending…
The other problem (still) is that no one can fully prevent the abuse once a culprit already has your model.
A successful takedown is of little to no use if it means god knows how many copies of your model are now out in the wild and offered as printed models everywhere.
One of my makers had this issue thanks to a scam site offering stolen models at a fraction of the price the creator asked for - an average of 5 to 7 bucks for models that otherwise would set you back 50 bucks or more.
Took more than 8 months until there were enough complaints made to result in a takedown of the entire site.
That was a bit over 2 years ago but those stolen models are flooding the usual sites ever since…
For every good intention and honest deal we find at least 5 criminal waiting to profit from it… 
Does Etsy normally take them down without much fuss? I just reported 4 stores last night myself that were selling my stuff.
How did you report them? I am going through their ‘copyright violation’ process and it was clearly a mistake. The model is on MW without allowing a commercial license that should be enough. But now their bots are asking me for photo IDs, proof of copyright documents, etc…
Because Etsy vendors selling models is NOT a Copywrite Violation. It is a Licensing Violation, and is covered by an entirely different law. If they were selling the .stl, .3mf or .step files, then it would be covered under Copyright Laws. Which is why you are getting the requests for the ID’s and copywright documents. Unfortunately, I do not know where you go to report the selling of unlicensed models on the ETSY sight. Maybe someone else can fill in that information.
Replying again, I found where you go to report IP infringement. https://www.etsy.com/legal/ip/report
I used their IP infringement portal, but I just got an email back saying that some of the info I entered was incorrect, so I’m trying it again. I don’t suppose Bambu handles any of this being that it was an exclusive model, do they? I assumed they only step in if the file is being hosted other places?
Ah. That’s a good call out, I’ll update my listings to include a link to the designer’s page for the couple that I have
“In this program, we offer Cash Rewards and Copyright Support for creators uploading their models exclusively to MakerWorld.”
From the link:
Copyright Support
Another issue creators expressed concerns about is copyright infringement, particularly when it occurs outside of MakerWorld. Individual creators are vulnerable to such infrigement because they do not have all the legal tools to back them up. To address this, we’re introducing Copyright Support for Exclusive Models. The goal is to assist our creators in protecting their copyrights through legal means and to facilitate the removal of infringing models, both within and beyond our platform.
As this is a new service and we’re continually refining our processes, we’ll initially focus on creators with Exclusive Models that have earned significant popularity. Specifically, creators whose accounts have accumulated over 2,000 prints or those whose infringed Exclusive Models have received more than 500 prints can apply for up to 5 uses of this service per year.
By collaborating closely with creators and legal professionals, we aim to develop a system that effectively safeguards users’ copyrights and interests.
We have added a new category in our Customer Support section, where you can submit a request for Copyright Support.
…So, it sounds like you need to be a heavy hitter to get their help.
This is what I went through as well. They replied asking for ID verification.
Maybe I should pick “Other” when it asks for the type of infringement…
EDIT: Picking other only allows you to report issues with a shop’s name, a shop’s use of video or images. To report an item it looks like it needs to happen under the Copyright infringement section.
This is starting to be not worth my time honestly, which I’m sure it’s what people that ignore licenses are counting on…
Ah, interesting. 5 uses per year, I wonder if that means you can go after 5 Etsy sellers per year, or can you collect the whole batch and have them all removed at one time 5 times a year? I found 4 Etsy sellers in the past 2 days just selling one of my exclusive models. That 5 uses would get used up real quick.
After some trial and error of selecting the wrong options and forgetting to enter in some info, I got it figured out. You have to select the copyright infringement option. Make sure all your info is correctly entered, name, address, phone #, the name of the model and the store listings etc. Once I resubmitted it, it got approved in about 3 hours.
The process of reporting offending models and / or sellers should be straight forward and easy.
But as long as these sites make fortunes from models they won’t get pro-active and they won’t offer any personalised help.
Yes, once you managed to convince the system that YOU are the original creator models are usually removed within hours.
But that’s all the creator ever gets
In several videos and interviews EthicalHacker pointed to the huge money porn sites but also many other hosting sites make on the back of others.
While porn sites are paid by hackers to spread ID and credential stealing malware other hosting sites, like ours, make millions for keeping violating files available - more often than not fully intentional.
It is not quality that makes a good hosting site it is quantity!
You can have a few hundred really create models on your site that attract a lot of paying downloaders…
Or you can have hundreds of thousands of models from free to expensive and rest assured you already make a fortune through the forced advertisements…
Every click counts - literally.
While not specifically pointing toward 3D printing EthicalHacker made clear that the stealing or genuine content a person created in a digital form is not seen as a crime by the industry…
A well known site hosting mainly 3D models AND having a US head office was claimed to have received over 30,000 infringement notices from US based creators in 2022.
Over 98% of these reports resulted in a takedown of the offending model.
Only about 20% of the cases resulted in an account suspension or ban of the offending user/seller.
Not a single creator was reimbursed for their financial losses, not a single legal case made against the criminals.
Bambu and Makerworld try to make bold claims but where are they when creators find their Makerworld models stolen ???
We had the same stunts in the past, even Thingiverse tried it for a while but in the end no one was falling for their false claims of help and support for stolen models.
There was a bold announcement quite a few backs when we got to hear that soon there will be new protections for digital creators, new license models with specific clauses making the abuse much harder…
The only thing that came out of it was benefits for the music and movie industry while low end creators of digital art kept missing out once more.
So rather than amending the Digital Millennium Act the US decided to push for self regulating industry.
Not a surprise really considering it the US movie and music industry having the benefits and dictating the rules of the game.
The lower down the ladder you are the fewer options to secure your digital creation you have - legally speaking.
For us it means that until big players like Etsy, Cults3D, Makerworld and what not finally decide to work together instead of only ever competing for members we will keep struggling.
3MF is a good start but still far from being a standard for 3D models as it is basically exclusive for 3D printing needs.
A company making fortunes from their users and their creative work should do far more than waiting for someone to complain about stolen models…
Thank you and yeah weird. This is what I did originally as well… Maybe I missed a magic button along the way. I’m not sure why they would ask for ID verification in my case.
