Speaking of… If I remember correctly, Core One is compatible with MMU3, right?
You nailed it, it’s such a transparent excuse. If security was the concern they would reduce reliance on the cloud, and avoid single point of failure verification.
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Owner of 3 BL printers here – offline LAN mode + HA integration is a deal breaker for me!
I postpone my plans on buying more BL printers for now, and looking for alternatives.
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Actually, they are. Direct quote, grammatical errors and all: “Due to the importance of these updates, your product may block new print job before the updates is installed” - I would call that forcibly pushing firmware updates.
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Can’t block printing from the SD card AFAIK (with the current firmware).
Blocking auto firmware updates:
If you are accessing your printer through Bambu Studio, or the app, it means you’ll have to:
P1S- go to WLAN and select Forget Wifi
A1- logoout, but to prevent a future auto logon, you’ll have to change your wifi password.
X1- don’t own one. need an X1 owner to tell you what you can do.
By doing this, you can still log into Makerworld with Bambu Studio, but you can’t remotely access your printer. Neither can Bambu.
But what about the Bambu Studio updates that may block 3rd party materials if they choose to go that route?
Go a step further, use Orca.
Sure the printers can locate the Wifi access, but w/o the password, it won’t do them any good as they can’t tunnel through the router.
Yes, I was tricked, and I will make as much noise as possible to prevent others from being tricked the same way. Your argument is that in a scam, the scammed party is the one to be blamed. This is ridiculous. The scammer is at fault.
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Hard disagree. As of 2024 Bambu Lab had a closed ecosystem on areas that benefited from having a closed ecosystem. Those areas was worth the risk. However, the problem now is they are expanding the closed ecosystem into an area that is not needing the benefit of a closed ecosystem.
Which also results into creating a bad foundation where a company has an avenue that can take advantage of its customers in the future. The lack of foresight is my concern.
There is an approach where they can address security without taking control away from the printer i purchased. They are probably spending more time talking about and address the community than if they would just do it right the first time.
apols to quietman, the following not directed at you, I’ve not got to grips with this forum software, just a general note from me, aimed at nobody in particular.
Here’s my thoughts, fwiw. If I was using bambu printers in a print farm/business environment, then I wouldn’t. No way would I be relying on a cloud service for anything important to me.
As a hobbyist, I have a P1s. Used to have an ender3, much modified, but not used since the P1s. I’ve not knowingly used the P1s on anything other than Lan mode and Orca. Something odd happened a few weeks ago, not sure what, but it lost my personal filament settings, but no big deal, so far.
If I get another year’s use from the P1s, as is, then I’ll be OK with that. Then I’ll decide to get another printer, or not, or maybe use the P1s hardware (but there is nothing special about the hardware), get another controller etc, and put back
Klipper, as I had on the Ender. I’m lucky, in the fact that I grew up with Meccano, a toy that put functionality over form, whereas youngsters afterwards had Lego, which put form over functionality, so something has changed in the way problems were solved for different generations.
Unfortunately, recently, there are a number of folk who bought into bbl, because they were misled into something that it was not, which is a shame for them, but they can look at it as a learning experience. Hopefully that will get a few of such experiences, and just ‘get on with it’. A couple of things for those folk to think about ‘If it was easy, everybody would be doing it’. BBL/YouTubers etc., made it look as if 3d printing was easy. BBL tried to make it so with much of the stuff that is on makers world, but for those who thought they could simply download any file and just print, in many instances they discovered it is far from easy. The other thing for those really P1ssed off with the situation - ‘Life is hard, and then you die’.
You are mistaking your cynicism for intelligence.
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I am selling all my BL printers and will actively discourage all my friends from getting one if BL keeps this stupid policy.
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It’s a shame they’ve gone this way and frustrating as it means I may have to sell my printers and change over to another brand which is a pain, especially as the printers work great right now. 
Hopefully they will support us in being able to use Orca etc but if not I guess it’s kind of exciting to research what other printers are out there now. I was sort of in a rut with only considering Bambu since I’m in their ecosystem etc.
What amazing alternatives are out there now? I’ve not been keeping up for the past few years.
If you care to dig into it, you will find that a mac mini will respond to keyboard inputs from any standard USB keyboard.
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You’ve been consuming too many Fox stuff. We have been using Chinese made products for over three decades. National security hasn’t been an issue until recently when they started producing products that are more innovated and superior than ours.
I’ve been 3D printing since 2012. Bambu printers are dominating the market right off the bat not because of low price. Bambu Lab has made 3D printing 100 times easier with better results for everyone. That’s why we’re all here.
Its cloud service is a red flag for me as most my work is developing new products. Sending prototype STL to any remote server, domestic or not is out of question. It’s like asking programmers to send source code to a remote server each time they need to test it locally. It makes no sense other than they (Bambu Lab) want to use the data for AI training or whatnot.
I knew about it when I purchased mine. Switch to LAN only is the 1st thing I did during the setup with all the printers.
My BL printers are 6 to 14 months old. They have been performing nicely since day one. I have only done one firmware update and haven’t noticed any performance difference.
LAN only users like me are fine as long they don’t update firmware with current printers.
This latest firmware move is definitely a bad move on their part. I too would not be purchasing new printers from BL if this policy stays.
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It is still a good printer. And I’m pretty sure people will create more firmware hacks and maybe even develop private cloud solutions to completely shut out BambuLab. I can even see myself doing that soon.
Let me know when you all start selling off your printers. I do a ton of 3d printing and never had one issue with bambu software after you learn the tricks and get it dialed in. I build and program prototype electronic boards on JUKI SMT machines and they also dont let you run whatever software on it either. Most companies don’t, why would they? It would cause them nothing but problems. Most things are like this and I think you are all just being whiny and ridiculous… And no, bambu has not giving me anything. And if you really want to die, sell them printers first so someone will get some use out of them.
Personally I’m on the fence but agree with many others here about sending data off to Bambu etc. Not that anything I’m printing is of any interest to anyone but still, they’re on my local network. I think I’ll just do a comb on the settings and make sure they’re on my guest network, go to lan mode and hopefully avoid having to update to the newer firmware so that I can just use them as is. They work great for what I need and nothing needs ‘fixing’ with new firmware that I’m aware of.
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I do not support this update at all, if they decide to move ahead with this I will be switching away. Surprised they would decide to do this after building such a good reputation and really owning the market, I watched Rossman’s video this morning and expect there will be much more from other creators soon to be released. Hopefully mass uproar will convince them to backtrack if they want to maintain the massive marketshare they currently hold on the industry.
I will speak for myself and not from others. Will also keep the rage in check. This is absolutely wrong, have no doubt about it, but selling your printers while losing money and your hobby, won’t take you anywhere. Keep them! They are workhorses! Just don’t support them anymore from now on. This is the way!
There are ways around it… for now. And, as a happy person that values his Bambu printers for what they are, i have to be also completely honest. They are worth the price, just not the trouble the company puts out with every bright idea they have.
Don’t sell your printers! Don’t rage against each other! Don’t be rude here in the forum, on reddit, facebook, discord or anywhere else. Voices are to be heard and they are only heard when speaking loudly. We are speaking and we are loud! We should behave like people and not animals. But we also should be more vocal about the way industry is going forward. Being vocal is what we can do as human beings. If it doesn’t work, don’t support these practices any further until these companies get the point. Our wallet is their power. Without our wallet they have no power.
Until we know what will happen with 100% certain, we have a way to mitigate this and that is going full LAN mode while we can.
This is the way of me saying that is good to have the community together after so many years and my Thank you for that.
Until then, follow this simple but effective guide on how to go offline while still enjoying your printers. After all, it’s your hardware, bought with your money.
https://old.reddit.com/r/BambuLab/comments/1i4vp5i/lan_mode_with_live_view_remote_monitoringcontrol/
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Bambu moderators actively silence or even ban users bringing up this topic on their Discord and subreddit. There are even cases of Reddit TOS violations, where people get bans in r/bambulab from posting on other 3D printing subs.
What a disgusting move by this company.
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