Will I still be able to send print jobs from Orca to my printers, or will I have to use the SD card only?
You can enjoy everything that you would do normally except for all the things “app” related. Check the wiki link that is also in that reddit post.
I think that the cancel object features is pretty important
I may be mistaken, but if you have a X1C you can do it on the screen (i used it once for testing only). Sure, in the app was easier but until anything changes, it’s the best option for now.
I have a P1S so not an option for me
This is crazy!!! I just got the x1c and I will own multiple printers,I’m in love with how easy it is, what I can make! But I won’t be handicapped by Bambu by what I can do with what I payed for!! If Bambu decides to keep this policy I will not be buying anymore products from Bambu Lab!!
I had almost become a Bambu Fan Boy. The moves they made with the software team X1Plus gave me even more confidence in Bambu and the direction they were headed. In one firmware update they now have reversed all of this progress and confirmed to me and looks like many more users of their product that they are nothing more than greedy corporate weenies that don’t understand WE OWN THE printer and have ultimate control. I will cut Bambu off completely and not give another penny of my money until they change their stance on my printers I bought from them and how I use them.
Louis Rossmann take on the subject pretty much sums up my feelings regarding Bambu’s new firmware update. link to YouTube article:
The thought of me getting excited about the new printer they were coming out with pisses me off now and they won’t get another penny from me.
I am surprised by the direction some of the recent debates have taken. I must ask: how far will this opposition go ?
When it comes to security, what is preferable:
- Leaving the cloud, firmware, mobile app, and software exposed to vulnerabilities to please a minority?
- Or allowing the teams to work on ensuring everyone’s safety?
Let’s be clear: if you cannot secure your connected devices, networks, or systems, then you yourself become a risk on the web. In that case, I cannot support such a stance.
Yes, the LAN and the printer are your physical property. But the code remains the intellectual property of the developers. By purchasing this printer, you agreed to use their software. This principle applies to any software, whether proprietary or open source.
Choosing not to update is your prerogative. However, this decision places the community at risk, whether through counterfeit models or potential compromises. Personally, I’d rather avoid platforms where such practices are widespread.
What should be done ?
In my opinion, updating is essential. It may even lead to improvements for LAN and Orca functionality. Patience is key, and we should acknowledge the tremendous work being done by the teams. They deserve more support than baseless criticism.
At the very least, let’s thank them for pushing progress forward.
Best regards.
If I may suggest, read through this entire thread before posting. Your argument, while well-structured, ignores key facts that have been repeatedly stated here.
- The primary objection is being forced onto the cloud. LAN-only mode was the only option for users who wanted to keep their systems offline and minimize exposure to the Internet.
- The security justification is a smokescreen. If security were the real concern, why mandate logins even in LAN-only mode?
If security were truly the issue, Bambu would have left LAN-only mode untouched. Instead, they did the opposite.
Even Microsoft doesn’t force Office users onto its cloud—offline access remains an option. Bambu, however, is restricting access outright. That’s the central issue this thread addresses, and your response overlooked it.
Suppose we let the user choose an acceptable level of risk. Especially in LAN mode!
So far, I’ve not seen any mention of anyone experiencing an attack on their printer.
There was a problem a year or so back when many cloud-connected Bambu printers started printing unexpectedly, but that was a Bambu error, not a malicious hack. So the only actual “bad actor” is the one I’m supposed to trust?
He conveniently left out that they have been removed from that list well before all this
I have been following this thread from the beginning and see no point in revisiting topics that have already been extensively debated. It would be a waste of time and not constructive.
Regarding LAN usage, it is ultimately each individual’s responsibility. However, when it comes to third-party devices, the manufacturer is responsible for ensuring an adequate level of security, while improper use or the installation of unofficial firmware remains the user’s responsibility.
Before claiming that someone has not read the thread, I invite you to take the time to carefully review all the responses. For reference, I already contributed to this discussion yesterday, as evidenced by my earlier message at the beginning of this thread.
Allow me to direct you to Bambu Lab’s official blog post:
Bambulab Blog : Firmware Update Introducing New Authorization Control System
I am also referring to the following three articles cited in that post:
- Bitdefender : Someone is hacking 3D printers to warn owners of a security flaw
- csoonline : Over 3,700 exposed 3D printers open to remote attackers
- Wiki Bambulab : Summary of Security Incident Responses and Abnormal Cloud Traffic
These links provide detailed explanations of why security is so crucial, including the risks of server compromises, data breaches, and even vulnerabilities affecting personal files. I strongly encourage you to read these resources before jumping to conclusions.
Patience is key, and it’s essential to consider the efforts being made to protect both users and the ecosystem.
Your post ignored the inherent security benefits of LAN mode, making it seem as though you hadn’t read the prior responses. Now that you claim you have, you still haven’t addressed the fact that these should be user-based decisions—not imposed changes after the sale that substantially alter the conditions of ownership.
To be blunt, your argument comes across as: “Users are too stupid to be trusted.” While there may be a kernel of truth in that, it doesn’t justify a company clawing back features. A more reasonable approach would be restricting access to Bambu Lab’s servers until users comply with new security protocols. Instead, your stance seems to justify Bambu’s heavy-handed, big-brother approach.
I ask you:
1. In what world is it acceptable for a vendor to enter your home—after you’ve paid for a product—and remove features?
2. In what world is it ethical or justifiable for a company to restrict how you use your own property when that use affects no one but you?
Or he simply didn’t know. The removal from the “black list” hasn’t received the same media coverage like their inclusion on it. Tbh, I didn’t knew either.
Hey mate I’ll add it here too, I’m not going to edit and try and censor what I said, but I apologise for directly attacking you earlier
I think it’s in the trust score thread
Quite the contrary - I switched to Orca Slicer because I was having issues with Bambu Studio. Been running in LAN-only mode from the beginning, maybe Bambu Studio has some issues when running in that mode.
LAN only access. No cloud. Especially no Chinese cloud. No mobile apps. Especially no proprietary mobile apps on proprietary operating systems. Open APIs that can be accessed by anyone from the local network using an API key that can be seen by looking at the printer’s firmware menu. No “authorization”, “agents”, no need to connect to the Internet.
Way preferable if you ask me.
C’est du cloisonnage a 100%, la sécurité peut etre renforcée avec d autres méthodes et en intégrant les 3rd parties dans le processus. Ce firmware ouvre la porte a un controle complet des machines, ne soyons pas naif, ce genre de controle n a jamais abouti a rien de positif pour les clients
I haven’t. Printers are no longer on the 'net. Looking into using a Mesh router to set up a local only WLAN for use with my Panda Touch and/or Orca. Contacted BIQU to see if it will work on a MESH WLAN. Otherwise, I’ll set up a cheap Wifi router and block internet access on it by not providing our ISP password to it.
There are ways if you are willing. Never used the Handy App much, so that’s no loss to me. Have been using Orca slicer and Bambu Studio both because of the different tools. Can easily switch to using Orca only.
Saw a youtube vid on this topic where the presenter laid into this move by Bambu. In the list of videos on the sidebar . . . holy ■■■■, there’s a bunch more raking Bambu over the coals for this.
Huh? For what? I saw nothing in your post for you to apologize for. And you had an honest opinion that other hobbyists most likely share.
And as for people brand new to printing w/ Bambu, they probably don’t see an issue either. But as for us crusty curmudgeons, it raises our hackles.