I would guess they would go with an AC powered heater, as for the bed? Why use the 24V supply, I mean its just a resistor. It doesnt care if you connect AC or DC:
That would unfortunately lower the chances about an upgrade kit.
Yeah, I agree. We will just have to see if and what they will release.
of courseā¦ I was not even thinking before writing, but the issue may be the same. I never verified how hot the relay gets, but SSR tends to dissipate a lot of heat. Is the one in the X1C different?
and you may be correct (not sure about copoennt lfierime):
77C will make a difference.
I think the most interesting thing would be to see how hot they allow the chamber to get and whether they made any other modifications to support that temperature. I think adding a heater is really easy, itās the āI donāt know what I donāt knowā about high chamber temperature that is the hard part (for me at least).
Hi 3dsurfr,
or may they already lost by plaing around with the A1 - a XL Printer with a Max Travel Speed of 1500mm/s is on its way. Stay focused and donāt put grass in your neighborās garden or youāll get f**** by the next one.
I had seen it.
One interesting thing is the features presentation; most are based on many BL usersā complaints and requests.
I am not looking for a new printer but would like to see some accurate reviews of the printerās performance.
Whatever it looks sh1te
All the companies are fast now. Had nothing to do with bambu. They rode the same wave. Everybody should thank the voron and klipper teams.
@Yorkie9668 It works on mag-lev/frictionless rail system. Actual innovation. Actually new.
@JayZay I think some of those requests started when the voron was created.
No. It is not new in general. This is actually quite common in a lot of high speed application. Our Pick and Place machine, for example, uses the same kind of motor. That is 5 years old and for sure existed also in the previous version.
I have also seen posts for the duet from 5 years or so, where people were tinkering with it.
I think what was missing was the proper motion control systems. With the active vibration compensation build into mayor firmware, those systems became much more usable.
What I am mainly concerned is, the extrusion system. Heck, even my X1C can not keep up, with a 0.6mm nozzle. Sure, we can print at smaller layer heights while keeping the same, but I am doing mostly structural parts and using particle filled filaments. So the 0.6mm nozzle is required for good printing results, and thicker layer heights also help to make a stronger part.
And even at smaller nozzle sizes, cooling, mainly the minimum layer time, will become a problem. We already see it now with the current machines.
Sorry for not being clear. Megnetism isnt new. Mag lev in a consumer printer is. Also, the actual print speed will be limited by max flow but the advertised speed here, is travel speed. People once said 600mm p/s wouldnt be possible. It just required filament companies to adjust. Ive seen alot of sub 5 minute benchy times already also. Even with the old filament chemistry.
Maybe we will see a pellet or powder extruder make its way to the small form factor side of things. A 4 color pellet system could be the cmyk setup people want. If every pellet is consistant as the last, color blending could be efficient.
I agree that Voron and Klipper set up the basis for the nowadays techā¦
But Bambu Lab also made a huge stepā¦ by making and integrating the technologies into a usable machine without the need to properly understand it.
I was referring to the larger printing area, open source and privacy. Voron already entails these features.
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@christian.woznik is the extruder that bad?
At least in the paper looks good (to me).
@StreetSports, it seems that the chemistry mainly focuses on PLA; it may relate to market size.
I mean they claim um to 60mm^3/s. That would actually be quite neat. Let us see once its out. I am so damn close to preordering it, but I really would like to see some reviews first.
Peopoly is a good company but im sure theres a reason the only video showing it move, has no filament. Probably not ready yet.
They say it was damaged in shipping, if you refer to the 3D Printing Nerd video. But yeah, I also waited for Bambulab to be released before ordering. Rather pay a few hundred more and be safe.
Since you also speak Mandarin or at least can answer it i would like to answer that way: Of course you are right. However, Itās one thing to develop something. Something else to integrate it into a customer-ready product. Then to put the whole thing on the market, e.g. the EU is something completely different (and due to product liability not only on the Chinese export market. The stuff you get on the Chinese export market only can by trown straight into the trash, there is no way to get cheap money).
From that point of view, Bambulab is still the one and only.
Like JayZay, I wonāt buy a printer - but time is money so if I need to unscrew or install something - I always have someone who waits and Iām not looking for more workā¦ Reliable suppliers who donāt burden me with their work will be paid. The magnetic rail without straps, the accessible printer head are looking sexy to me. Iām really excited to see what Iāll find on YouTube in 1-2 years. And when it comes to my customers, only the best is good enough for me and suppliers who donāt deliver are gone faster than you can count on 3. Sorry, Iām Swiss, I donāt make any compromises when it comes to things like that.
@JayZay I strongly assume that the competitiors of Bambulab are reading very carefully almoste everthing in this forum, an office worker in China doesnāt cost much. 2-3 years and I have what I need, from whomever. Of course, the years of operation and how well you were looked after also count. From that point of view, every day counts 
So itās no wonder that all the problems that were solved were also addressed here.
100%. Competitors watch bambu while bambu watches prusa. Literally taking notes. Part of the reason Prusa blocked bambu.com
Success of Bambu Lab let us forget how crowdfunding campaigns can be a lottery.
When BL asked for money, there already existed prototypes that have been tested by relevant reviewers - for me it is especially Stefan from CNC kitchen, and even when he was impressed, but still was also suspicious and recomended to wait for review of regular units.
For Peopoly Magneto there are already sever red lights
They may go āfake it till you make itā strategy to collect money for further development. But still too big gamble. Early birds will very likely serve as beta testers.
Not to defend Peopoly, but on Kickstarter you also do not get the money back. A preorder, like it is done here, is actually safer than Kickstarter, as I can easily get my money returned via the CC, if they fail to deliver the product to me.
Kickstarter itself states, that you have no rights to refund, which makes sense.
That is a 30% discount. Sunlu also offers a 33% discount on their S4 dryer, for example. BambuLab also offered a 30% discount on the X1ās and X1Cās early bird offers, which was 700 units in total and enough to fully fund the Kickstarter.
I dont think it is that outrageous or a red flag.
But I agree with you. I also would not buy a device that has not been tested before. That has not been shown working publically before. But both aspects are not nearly as bad as you make it sound. If Iād need such a printer, I would have seriously considered it.
Correct, for early backers there were 30% discounts. Was not aware of this
about other points
Lets hope that the doubts are unjustified and we will see another innovation for consumer 3D printers soon.
In Germany, we have 120 days, but I think it extends to 540 days if it is because an item was not delivered. At least for my Visa. Mastercard I think was just 120 days. But in both cases it would be long enough.
I thought it was the same in the states but that is just a vague memory.
As I understand it, you just need a prototype to show it and clearly state, what works and what still needs to be developed. From what I read here, the version that was show in the 3D Printing Nerdās video would easily be enough for a kickstarter.