Yes. But the difference is that on there you know your makes will be shown on your profile as well and you can handle accordingly. If they said on MakerWorld from now on every NEW make will pop up on your profile it would also be ok, people would just be less inclined to rate certain models with a photo. On Printables I receive a lot less makes than on Makerworld for the same amount of downloads. MakerWorld has made rating easier from the app but I also think the (more) public nature makes users more hesitant.
I do think if MW has a ‘select eight’ feature it would be better than Printables where everything is shown and you are thus less inclined to rate certain models. Either for privacy/intimacy reasons or just for what looks better/more impressive on your profile
My two cents, I think there’s a bit of over sensitivity these days around the forum, after the firmware topic everything is being taken quite aggressively
Sure I agree that having it optional to display is a better approach, but from that to bambu is doxing us all goes an very long way
It’s no PII for the ones mentioning GDPR, you posted out of your own will on the site and is already public
Printables has this tab since forever, at least certainly since I joined the site, it’s not on the “home” page but it’s a click away
If you are concerned that people see that you printed xyz don’t take a picture and post it publicly
That being said, I like it better without it on the homepage, but some makers - which are not designers - would probably enjoy showing off their prints and that is valid as well
The current trend that users (and a restrict group of them) need to be consulted and have to agree to what a company decides to do with their platform is getting a bit out of hand, providing constructive feedback/criticism is very valid, making something more than it is it’s not
If you are concerned that people see that you printed xyz don’t take a picture and post it publicly
I can’t say for others but I’m certainly not concerned. I can print a big black something and I won’t be ashamed of it You said Printables has this tab since forever and the problem is, here it came out of nowhere yesterday and people were surprised. I checked some of the creators I follow, just to see what did they print, just out of curiosity. And it really was a very interesting experience to see their refined complex models with polished photos and below in the Recent Makes section there was just a simple “2D” ornament in the photo made with a potato This was so incoherent it was hilarious. What I’m trying to say, some people create their image here and I fully understand them.
And there is also the “cross-visibility” thing I personally experienced (makes done on the same printer but on different person’s account were visible as mine). Let’s assume that I print something (as a surprise) for my husband for Valentine’s Day… and he can see it now. Surprise as hell Jokes aside, this issue might be a problem here.
Yes and no. If you leave your printer logged in and move, then yes, it’s totally normal that even with a different IP address, it will automatically use that account in another wifi network and so, it will send the normal “packet” showing that you / your account printed “X” model.
If you are not logged in on the printer side and you move your printer to another network, then the printer doesn’t know that you are using a combination of that account in that network and the packet sent will be totally different until you log in again.
What happened on my side was, step by step:
Printer had no account logged in before moving it to another location / network. And the reason was because i did a factory reset because of an issue with the purge being continuous due to a firmware update, probably a bug.
Before moving location we did not log in because i didn’t turn on the printer for 2 days due to lack of time (Christmas is a busy time of the year)
We decided to bring the printer with us because a family member would like to see how they work before throwing money at Bambu and since the mini doesn’t take that much space, we agreed.
We got there (another country), turned the printer on and my wife logged in with her account while i went shopping.
Since we came back, the printer was still not used and it’s not even plugged.
So… another country, another ip address, another account other than mine. There is no reason to those prints, made in another country network, in another ip address and another account, to show up on mine. It’s a security and privacy issue.
My main problem with this is the same that we have been discussing for ages here in the forum. There is no official communication on how certain things happen or even why.
Trust… This is the main word. More people complained about this too. I waited so i would not be the first and be taken as “The bambu hater” but here we are.
And was there an official explanation about this? No, as usual. There would be… if this matter would backlash and explode on youtube. But it didn’t and yet i take this as a privacy situation and also security.
Imagine you sell your printer. Everything logged off and sell it, like everyone does it. The buyer takes the printer, connects it in his home, creates a new account and Bambu decides to say “Hey, it’s the same printer, let’s bind all the accounts used on that printer to the same person” and you start seeing what they do in your profile and vice-versa.
This should have been addressed. But it wasn’t. Instead it was easier to remove the “recent makes” all together and that’s it. Period!
While that is true, the print history was collected and presented in a different way. Anything I review was left on the pages of the models I printed before. If anyone noticed my reviews it was because of mutual interest.
It was a change with consequences done without permission or consult beforehand.
End of the world? Nope. But an invasion of privacy? Yep.
that’s normal i’d say you won’t setup your “photo studio” to get a quick photo, i often just take a snap with my phone while the design is on the bed for the makes, but of course i do make a setup for when i’m taking pictures of my designs, it’s just how it is
that i agree is a weird one, and something that should not happen
no i assume you are the one being “purposefully obtuse”, and aggressive at that, but i’m sure as always you’ll spin it around and make yourself the victim of being bullied (insert single tear emoji here) i recommend you raise a complaint then to the appropriate authorities if you believe your Personally Identifiable Information was exploited, best of luck and i’ll leave it at that (you can rant on your reply but i’m not going to see it just so it’s clear)
This is madness. I don’t understand it at all. How can anyone say that adding a “Makes” category, it’s somehow an invasion of privacy. Makes have been a big part of your profile on most 3D model repositories, and no one cares.
Why is it so wrong for MakerWorld to have makes on the home page?
I’ll try to explain that in an easy to follow way why some people might feel that way without going into legal stuff (I also chatted with a lawyer, but I’m not paying her her consultation fees to have actual legal advice).
IF the makes category was there from the begining, like on other platforms you cite, nobody would have a problem with that.
IF the makes category would show only new makes and were people be informed about that - also nobody would have a problem with that.
If the change was announced with a warning beforehand and an opt-in, then since it’d be “opt in” the user could agree to data repurposing and would be ok. (sorry for a bit much legal speak here)
Generally - it’s not wrong for makerworld to have makes on the home page. The way it was done however was what made all the problem.
We most often focus on things we don’t like so I’d like to emphasize that some of the changes are really nice. The “Pinned Models” section is what I like most, and the “Achievements” section looks great (although I don’t have any, but it looks great on other profiles)
Honestly, instead of “Recent Makes” I’d prefer to have Collections (those that are set as public, or selected by user), and recent makes maybe in another tab.
Agreed, I think there are some nice changes. The one thing I would change is add all models below the new sections instead of having to click “3D models” at the top. Clicking around today I kept wondering why designers only had four models before reminding myself that it’s just the new landing page and I need to click further to see everything.
A short (for me) example of how this change should have been implemented and a simple study on how to communicate better.
This is from my perspective as a professional software architect, business owner, DPA/GDPR/PECR consultant and lecturer for the U.K. government, health care system and financial sectors who taught thousands and helped craft rules, designing and developing large-scale solutions for desktops, web and mobile in multiple industries including amusement arcade security, finance, email marketing server design, monitoring systems, consultancy and developing the most successful mobile app solution for the armed forces, first responders and healthcare to date in the U.K. and a few other countries.
The above is for those who may pretend their observations without having been a paid expert in the related fields is more than mine, dumb as it is to attempt trolls from complaining about common sense, communications and decent rollout techniques.
It falls under PECR (pronounced pecker which makes me laugh), it is all about consents.
The proper way was seeking consent from the start, we never consented to having all our dispersed ratings in a single place when we signed up.
The correct way (minimal effect); add a consent toggle in settings and make an announcement.
The professional way benefiting both parties (actual effort), add the toggle as above, but also add an enable button where it is meant to go with a confirmation dialog explaining what will be shown. Once enabled by either toggle or button, allow the user to curate the displayed models, essentially provide the list they had with an approve option on each. The user could approve one, ten or all (might take time), but, better UX as the user is in full control. No ordering of items as the meaning is recents.
I always did 2 as good standards are the minimums amount of effort.
It has the side effect of not annoying millions of users (like the project I was last responsible for).
I’d like to expand upon this. A lot of people posted reviews/pictures without realizing that this data might be repurposes for this manner. While it’s something I personally advocated for, because I wanted to be able to proudly showcase my makes, that doesn’t take away from the fact that most people didn’t take that into consideration when posting their makes/reviews, and so may not be suitable towards that purpose, or something they want to share in that manner.
The idea behind having the Makes is getting to showcase awesome prints we’ve done. I think it’s warranted to have some control over what actually gets shown, without taking away from the review process, or that sometimes we might want to post reviews/pictures that we don’t want showcased on our front pages. Those items might be public, but that doesn’t mean we intend for them to be plastered across our front door. I think this is a fair statement.
@Tanklet Maybe to add on to this, that when posting a make of a model, there could be an option to include it in the featured makes. Some people might do tons of makes/reviews, so this might make it easier to curate what gets shown on the front page for those that choose to share that.
Yes, and I still want the ability to group models into different categories. These categories should be shown as sections, like that on MW’s landing page, not in folders or any place that requires a click to see them.
The Pin feature sort of fulfills two of the requests that I made in the post linked below. So it’s good progress. But there is a limit on the number of models pinned before the effectiveness is lost, ie. too many models pinnned = no model pinned.
Thanks @Tanklet I think for now, it would be nice to just have the full “Recent Models” expanded out to the full page. For a new or casual user, I don’t think they’re going to realize there’s more than 8 models on a page and take the time to find and click the “view all” button.
I think this change should be reversed and put back the way it was, aside from the Pinned Models and the achievements. Those are really great!
it would be nice for us to be able to choose if we want to show all models. the other thing is that showing all models should be writen in a bright color so that people can see it if you want to go this route. i dont see the benefit of doing such a thing to us as this will only impact us as we cannot be seen as much as we used to… people wont know unless they know where to click and everytime someone looks at another persons profile it will make them click one more place, like we all want to see what other creators did make so why add a button for us to click on it ? its pretty sad imo feels like @BambuLab doesnt want us to show as much and just wants new users and more new users imo. I might be wrong tho but we are 5 makers that spoker about it so far on the polymaker live discord chat and we all think the same. Hopefully others will support the same as I think
@Tanklet will there be more achievements? I’d love some more stuff to show off other than just the contest things.
Obviously some of the stuff on Printables is nice (a lot are just boring, like "Post 10 Makes) but some truly amazing achievements like posting 100/1000 makes or like, Entering contests, participating in forums, social media things. etc etc
i dunno make em fun!
PLEASE don’t make them worth points or anything though, because people will find a way to farm it and ruin it. Just let them be fun, I’d like a badge wall on my profile somewhere
You said Printables has this tab since forever and the problem is, here it came out of nowhere yesterday and people were surprised. I checked some of the creators I follow, just to see what did they print, just out of curiosity. And it really was a very interesting experience to see their refined complex models with polished photos and below in the Recent Makes section there was just a simple “2D” ornament in the photo made with a potato 
This was so incoherent it was hilarious. What I’m trying to say, some people create their image here and I fully understand them.
